Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | Comcast to buy AOL..
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | Dead end
Just give it a couple more years and AOL will just be a web portal and no longer an ISP. Comcast will continue to grow until they are stuck at their cap. |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
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join:2002-12-16
Lowellville, OH
 ·Armstrong Zoom In..
 ·AT&T Midwest
| In the coming years
I expect AT&T to pass Comcast and take the #2 spot, especially once U-Verse gets going. Where DSL is available, people are jumping for the price, if they light more remote terminals, I suspect many more will jump to them too. Until your average Joe opens his mind, don't expect AOL to get booted anytime soon.
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: Dead end
I knew AOL was losing subscribers quickly, but a 2 million drop in 1 qtr says AOL is bleeding so quickly that by this time next year they will be down to 3rd or 4th on the list.
»www.isp-planet.com/research/rank···006.html
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
·Time Warner Cable
| The real statistics
I'd like to see this broken down by technology because I don't believe these stats unless 80% of the country is still on dial up. If the consumer is a cable customer then its 100% the cable company as the ISP. If the consumer is a dsl or fiber customer then I'd bet 90% of them are using Verizon or AT&T a the provider. When you add up the cable providers and the telcos it doesn't even come to 50% according to their research.
So how about a study of the real question. And that is what percent of BROADBAND customers are using what ISP's. When you crunch those numbers I believve that your going to find that 95% of the customers are either using the local cable company or Verizon/AT&T.
Do we know what percent of the country is still on dial up? Wasn't there an article a few weeks ago on BBR that said that the FCC was inflating their numbers on the penetration of broadband? Doesn't this information appear to back those claims?
I think that the general population sees these statistics and says, "AT&T only has 9% of the market place, what are those people talking about when they say AT&T is a monopoly?" |
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Pathfinder
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Mount Vernon, NY | Does this take in to account the number of AOL subscribers on BYOA or on free AOL?
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Dead end
Fix the clot! Fix the clot! CLEAR lol |
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alg
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join:2001-04-10
Houston, TX
clubs:  | People still use AOL?
I mean I don't even know of any nooby people who use AOL anymore. Even they have moved on to better services. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Dead end
said by TKJunkMail  :I knew AOL was losing subscribers quickly, but a 2 million drop in 1 qtr says AOL is bleeding so quickly that by this time next year they will be down to 3rd or 4th on the list. [att=1] » www.isp-planet.com/research/rank···006.html I can't beleive that 13 million people still overpay for AOL. Looking at that link I don't see NetZero on that list so they have less than 100,000 customers same with PeoplePC. They spend a lot on advertising for so few customers. |
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tbaker397
join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA
| reply to T1 Rocky
Re: The real statistics
said by T1 Rocky :Do we know what percent of the country is still on dial up? Wasn't there an article a few weeks ago on BBR that said that the FCC was inflating their numbers on the penetration of broadband? Doesn't this information appear to back those claims? Based just on what you pointed out, I think you may be on to something. |
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JoeyDee
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join:2004-07-23
Las Vegas, NV
·Cox HSI
| AOL Finally go away?
This restores my faith in the American Consumer. Pretty soon the only people out there using AOL and their obnoxious software will be a bunch of grannies whose sons and daughters don't care enough to get them proper 'net access.
Ever try to cancel an AOL account then get the damn software off a computer? They deserve to die. |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | reply to alg
Re: People still use AOL?
My in-laws still had AOL on dial-up until 2 months ago. AT&T's upgrades in CT made DSL a feasible alternative, especially since it costs about the same as they were paying for a second dedicated phone line for dial-up. |
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RadioDoc
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Re: Dead end
According to their methodology blurb they didn't count BellSouth, either, since BS didn't report. It doesn't look like BS's numbers are in the SBC numbers. Hard to tell since they did not gather the information themselves and make a lot of assumptions about it.
NetZero = United Online, by the way.
Many of those AOL folks are probably using it for backup or on -the-road access and are double-counted with a broadband ISP which does not offer such dialup access as a perk (most cable ISPs, for instance).
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by RadioDoc :According to their methodology blurb they didn't count BellSouth, Wouldn't Bellsouth's numbers be counted as AT&Ts?
Many of those AOL folks are probably using it for backup or on -the-road access and are double-counted with a broadband ISP which does not offer such dialup access as a perk (most cable ISPs, for instance).
$25 a month for a back-up ISP? |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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said by RadioDoc :Many of those AOL folks are probably using it for backup or on -the-road access and are double-counted with a broadband ISP which does not offer such dialup access as a perk (most cable ISPs, for instance). Good point. There is another chart that tries to account for double counting because of AOL's BYOA and because some AOL users access the internet thru cable and telco providers.
We try not to count any subscriber twice. For example, a subscriber to EarthLink DSL may also be counted in Covad's DSL numbers and in the ILEC's DSL numbers as well. We therefore do not count EarthLink and Covad broadband towards our total. We assume that 20 percent of AOL's subscriber base obtains access through another ISP, either as BYOA, or in a more traditional broadband arrangement. As AOL and Road Runner work together more and more, we expect the subscriber bases to overlap more than they do today, and hope that AOL, which is very good about disclosure, will reveal the extent of the subscriber overlap. This leaves us with the following unique subscriber numbers: 
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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said by BF69 :$25 a month for a back-up ISP? AOL does offer a limited hours $9.95/mo plan. My sister uses it.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| reply to alg
Re: People still use AOL?
said by alg :I mean I don't even know of any nooby people who use AOL anymore. Even they have moved on to better services. My mother uses the BYOA plan for the email and messenger with her friends. Which is free but she likes the training wheel web where you just put in a word and it "goes" to the page.
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
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Re: Dead end
And if you look at where they were in Q4 2005, you'll see that they've lost almost 6.3 million subscribers in the past year. In that time, Comcast added 2 million.
Back in May of last year, I made a prediction that in 3 years AOL would no longer be the biggest ISP anymore. I would like to revise that prediction. I think AOL will fall from the #1 spot by Q2 of this year. Q3 at the latest. (There's even a good chance that the Q1 results will show them to be in the #2 spot.) |
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timpinson
join:2001-08-17
Dallas, TX
| reply to JoeyDee
Re: AOL Finally go away?
A friend of mine, her mom lives way out in the country where there isnt anything but AOL available to her, she pays $9.95 a month for unlimited usage, but it just doesnt have all the other garbage software installed that AOL likes to put on. It connects fairly fast for dial up, but its still AOL as far as I'm concerned. I guess until her area gets something else she is forced to use it.  |
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FastiBook
join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| AOL
I still use AOL for back up e-mail, and chat rooms. The service is sadly being choked to death by bots and spam. I've been using AOL since 1997, and i use a mac. AOL has not had a new mac version in about a year and a half or longer, and some features specifically do not work on a mac. No reasoning behind this either. Ironic, since E-world started out on mac, turned into AOL, then hopped over to windows. Surprisingly, Netscape, and Compuserv still work! |
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