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Comments on news posted 2007-04-24 08:52:40: Criticism has been mounting over the fact that YouTube & Google pull videos upon request without investigating the complaints, which doesn't give users a fighting chance in cases of parody or fair use. ..

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karlmarx

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Why should they care?

The megacorps exist to CONTROL the flow of information. If they can prevent people from seeing what they don't want them to see, then they win. If I were the megacorps, of course I would send a DMCA notice for EVERY video I owned, or every video that mentioned me or any of my megacorps susidiaries. Remember, control the news, and you control the populace. War is Peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. We should all be good little proles, and work for our masters, and spend money like our masters tell us to spend it.
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Drakemoore

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Aside from the fact that what you said reminds me of the Pink Floyd song " The Wall "

Google sadly isn't doing very well in my book on this one, they should have a team setup to investigate the video requests to be taken down. It's a lot of videos but it should at the very least be done.

Of course if it were up to me I would fight it a lot more, in essence companies get riled up too easily over Youtube and other such sites / services. Companies basically get free advertising if you think about it, they don't have to pay to host the files. Quite a few people I know of that watch music videos, user made music videos and other such content tend to go out and buy the albums / movies / etc.

Companies should be happy, of course if they could see that anyways. Unfortunately they're so bent on controlling every piece of information that it won't happen.


pnh102
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 Liability for Fake/Incorrect DMCA Notices

Shouldn't those who submit fake or invalid DMCA takedown demand notices be prosecuted?
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TKJunkMail
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reply to karlmarx
Re: Why should they care?

Have you been checking the index for your list of megacorps?
»www.orionsarm.com/eg/topics/megacorps.html


Mac Bridger
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Re: Liability for Fake/Incorrect DMCA Notices

For what?

I'm not against the idea, but I can't think of a single criminal charge that would stick. Google could of course sue them.


RR Conductor
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Sad

When your nation's leaders joke about starting wars and bombing nations, you know you're in trouble.


pnh102
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Re: Liability for Fake/Incorrect DMCA Notices

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For what?

I'm not against the idea, but I can't think of a single criminal charge that would stick. Google could of course sue them.
I would think in the case of a fake DMCA notice, that is, someone claiming to be a copyright owner but really isn't, who types up a notice and emails it to Google, would probably be liable for forgery and fraud charges at the very least. If the person is outside of CA (where Google is based), then Federal charges could also apply.
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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

When your nation's leaders joke about starting wars and bombing nations, you know you're in trouble.
Have no fear... McCain will never be president

The fact that he has to resort to song and dance to try to convince his own party that he is actually a Republican (and not a RINO) is proof enough.
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I don't want anybody that jokes about anything so terrible as war, death and destruction are not funny. I guess it's like Patton and Bradley in WWII, Bradley said to Patton once "George, that's the difference between you and me, I hate war, you love it", consider me in the same mind as General Bradley.


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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

I don't want anybody that jokes about anything so terrible as war, death and destruction are not funny. I guess it's like Patton and Bradley in WWII, Bradley said to Patton once "George, that's the difference between you and me, I hate war, you love it", consider me in the same mind as General Bradley.
Honesty is a good thing!

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dynodb
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reply to karlmarx
Re: Why should they care?

said by karlmarx See Profile :

The megacorps exist to CONTROL the flow of information. If they can prevent people from seeing what they don't want them to see, then they win. If I were the megacorps, of course I would send a DMCA notice for EVERY video I owned, or every video that mentioned me or any of my megacorps susidiaries. Remember, control the news, and you control the populace. War is Peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. We should all be good little proles, and work for our masters, and spend money like our masters tell us to spend it.
But... without the megacorps, who would make the tinfoil for your hat?


manfmmd
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Re: Liability for Fake/Incorrect DMCA Notices

Fraud.


pnh102
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Re: Why should they care?

said by dynodb See Profile :

But... without the megacorps, who would make the tinfoil for your hat?
They also make great ropes for hanging capitalists
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hurfy
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confused

I thought that is how it is supposed to work.

They swear it is theirs..take it down.

You swear no it isn't...put it back.

If they still disagree all hell breaks loose at that point or some such. But no info on what happened at step 2 here. Did viacom still say it was theirs ? or was all the excitement over step 1? am i missing something?
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