brianiscool
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TKJunkMail
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2 edits |  More colleges should do this
And it will also help keep the university's network costs under control as well. The RIAA may have just given them the excuse they needed to keep their network costs from spiraling ever higher.
And it will still be there for those with a legitimate need.
Although P2P file-sharing can sometimes be used for legitimate reasons, any use of P2P software on the campus network may result in Internet access being disabled under this new policy. Individuals who need to use P2P software for legitimate purposes can discuss their needs with the IT Service Desk. Here is the University's FAQ on the subject:
»technology.ohio.edu/help/blocked-faq.html
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| This is only partly due to copyright infringement
A bigger reason that Ohio University has banned all p2p use
is because of the massive amounts of bandwidth it consumes.
As Slashdot user arivanov put it:
said by arivanov :
Most university IPs are real on a really high speed
connected LAN. As a result they get elected to supernode
status by most modern P2P applications. As a result the
university network becomes a jump point for NAT traversal
for all leaches within 30-60ms rtt around it. As a result
the resource usage is clearly disproportional to the actual
on-campus usage. Essentially all small and medium corporates
and home users sitting behind firewalls in the immediate
vicinity live off that resource and steal a significant
portion of the Ohio University network capacity.
And BitTorrent in particular is one of the most bandwidth
hungry p2p applications of all.
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26 | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: More colleges should do this
I am guessing that it will be fairly difficult to block P2P. There is always some kind of a workaround.
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osrk
join:2005-02-28
Sterling, CT
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This will not matter
The University of Connecticut all did this earlier this year. They set up packet header sniffing devices on the edge of the network to inspect each packet header. Unfortunately for them it just gave all the geeks on the campus an excuse to talk to all the hot girls on how they could still download their favorite episode of "Grey's Anatomy" via enabling the encryption on there favorite bit torrent. Of course there were more modifications than that but I'll leave you to your imagination. |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY | um..
but they "pay" for the connections with those insane college tuitions |
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reverse_trend
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i thought universities on the top 10 list for the riaa and top use of piratebay was a matter of pride.. its always possible to transfer to nebraska where they still love their ipod madness gone wild. |
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twizlar
I dont think so.
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Brantford, ON | heh
I like how they are implementing it. Besides, BitTorrent is a failed protocol anyways.
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Re: This will not matter
said by osrk  :Unfortunately for them it just gave all the geeks on the campus an excuse to talk to all the hot girls on how they could still download their favorite episode of "Grey's Anatomy" via enabling the encryption on there favorite bit torrent. Maybe the university blocking P2P is a good thing then  |
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lrtc
join:2004-06-05
Toronto | reply to brianiscool
Re: Right
Who's next now? |
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krichek
join:2004-02-15
Roseville, CA | Hehe....
Doesn't WoW use a bittorrent based client for patches?  |
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Default_Uzer
join:2006-02-13
Springville, NY
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Re: heh
BitTorrent a failed protocol, on what grounds? It's the best thing for file sharing since the original Napster. |
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DiscardedVet
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Re: More colleges should do this
said by TKJunkMail :The RIAA may have just given them the excuse they needed to keep their network costs from spiraling ever higher. .
I don't see where the uni would need an excuse, it's their network. If bandwidth per application exceeds normalcy and average, they can kill it simply due to burden cost. It's their call on their network.
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belushi
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Re: um..
said by zipjay :but they "pay" for the connections with those insane college tuitions Wrong buddy. OU being a state institution is quite cheap in comparison to other Ohio Colleges. OU Alumni such as myself were lucky to attend such a fine institution.
As a taxpayer though, I couldn't be happier that I am no longer subsidizing one of the largest offenders of copyrighted material in the US.
I just wish the network was there in it's current form when I graduated. |
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karlmarx
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| A sad day for higher education
This is just a cop out to 'the man'. When I was in college, sure, the internet was way smaller, but we were allowed to use it for anything we wanted to. If it's TRULY causing a problem for the dorms, then why don't they just limit the switch to 100MB or something like that per dorm. The 'shared resource' is just a bad excuse for not upgrading their network. If the students WANT to use P2P, then I wholeheartedly support them. Would napster have ever come into existance if the universities banned fanning from using their bandwidth? Certainly not. I fail to see what benefit the school gets by muzziling the free speech rights of their own students. This is a world gone mad, courtesy of the megacorps.
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Sterling Heights, MI | say good bye to p2p tv OU. |
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Asmodeus
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3 edits | reply to karlmarx
Re: A sad day for karlmarx
apparently, the need for 'the man' (and really, are you this befuddlingly stupid to continue using that phrase in this day and age...? who the hell still says, 'the man' except for you...) to monitor his own network takes precedent beyond the needs of the students to use p2p to download copyrighted material. And please if you are going to stoop to the "but what about linux distro's, and non-copyrighted indie stuff, etc. etc." then don't even bother letting your stubby, grease soaked fingers hit the keyboard, because your excuse will undoubtedly be lame... again...
oh, trying to equate p2p with free speech rights is symptomatic of your type of philosophy and ideology, which you've proven to be wrong, wrongheaded, illogical, irrational, and frankly downright dangerous... please, please, please try to explain how on earth p2p'ing copyrighted material is equative to free speech, much less equative to suppressing free speech rights...? have you ever stopped to wonder that the university doesn't want to the liabilities that come with unfettered and unchecked p2p downloading...? obviously you haven't thought out the ramifications of the university dealing with their own networks... the students don't own the networks by the way, but of course in your bizzaro world, they should because the mega-rich university, who by the way receives federal funding, should practice the type of wealth and information redistribution that you so hauntingly desire... the reason you fail to see the benefit of the school stopping p2p is a direct reflection on your lack of understanding that the school knows that given the circumstances, a lot of the students who p2p, when no one is looking are not doing the right thing and therefore they are nipping any potential problems that these students and their online behaviors with regards to p2p in the bud...
furthermore, you are incapable of even thinking far enough ahead that aside from the school shielding itself from any potential riaa/mpaa liabilities, which are legitimate by the way, they are also protecting their students from said liabilities as well... university has obviously not helped your critical thinking skills one bit... |
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schmunk
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Defiance, OH | Why use the network at college Get there own connections
Get there own connections like dsl or cable or wifi. |
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Cost of 'secondary education' goes up because they need more tubes to feed the students their pron.
Cry me a river 'poor' students. |
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jgkolt
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Re: um..
Everyone here is assuming that the p2p protocol is ILLEGAL. Just as cars are illegal since they enable drunk drivers to kill and as water enables people to drown.
We could now look at this as a good and bad thing.
On the bad side they are labeling p2p as being a sort of evil. I thought some of the most legitimate uses of p2p was research in college with large data files.
Now lets look at the good side. Now that the casual downloader cannot use the net the computer geeks will be able to use even higher bandwidth and get their movies and music even faster. It seems ot be a 2 tier internet where the computer geeks get priority and the faster speeds since they can get around the packet filtering and what not.
What do you guys think?
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