Vamp
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join:2003-01-28
MD | 2mbps in 2009?
Sure it's free, but 2mbps in 2009?
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radougherty
join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX |  Can the backbone handle it?
I wonder if the pacific US links would be able to handle the additional traffic (making the assumption that a lot of traffic would be headed this way). |
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RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| To put this in perspective
India has 1.13 BILLION acknowledged people in an area ONE THIRD the size of the US.
The US has a massive 301 MILLION people in three times the area of India.
So for the equivalent population based usage as listed in this DSLR synopsis, the Indian 9 million connections would be less than 3 million connections here in the US, or less than half the people in the San Francisco Bay area would get it this year.
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jervin123
join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA
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Re: Can the backbone handle it?
I don't think the backbones both headed east and west in & out of india could handle it. Maybe theres some undersea cable there attatched to that we don't know about yet  but when you download from indian mirriors to the us they are pretty bad just like the rest of asia. but I've had good results from europe |
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Toadman
Hypnotoad
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
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Re: To put this in perspective
said by RayW  :India has 1.13 BILLION acknowledged people in an area ONE THIRD the size of the US. The US has a massive 301 MILLION people in three times the area of India. So for the equivalent population based usage as listed in this DSLR synopsis, the Indian 9 million connections would be less than 3 million connections here in the US, or less than half the people in the San Francisco Bay area would get it this year. Keep in mind that a very, very small population actually own computers in India. It's like us saying we are going to provide broadband to every cow in the US! |
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clecssuck
join:2002-01-23
Birmingham, AL | They still use ox-carts over there! |
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iRack
@verizon.net
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Tzale
| They are providing broadband to people when they can't even provide clean water. Humans can live without broadband but when you have a water truck everyday to come deliver water; you don't really care about internet. |
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Mars4001
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join:2007-03-23
Pacoima, CA | reply to Vamp
Re: 2mbps in 2009?
It is a great achievement if that can be done. Remember, we cannot even get free dial-up in the US |
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BloodRoses
Gods lend wings to tainted hearts
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Edit: In terms of availability, not affordability. |
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Rob A
Same Old Jets
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join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ | I'd take that
2Mbps is plenty fast for me. |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
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|  Indian Broadband?
Are you people serious? You actually believe EVERYTHING you hear? Come on... In many parts of India people can't even get clean drinking water, let alone electricity! Only in the cities for a select few people is broadband required. Don't be stupid.
-Tzale
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Shimtastic
@uark.edu
| Re: free broadband
I'm from India and I'll say this:
I'll believe it when I see it.
Even assuming that the this "free" 2Mbps plan makes it way out of the bureaucratic web, it's going to come under fire the minute it launches from private broadband operators (Reliance, Tata, Airtel, etc) for violating anti-competition laws.
The courts will throw it out even if it sees light of day.
Lets not even talk about water et al in India. I can beat drums about the USA too, but let's face it: no country in the world does the sensible thing most of the time. I'll just leave it at that. |
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Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | reply to Tzale
Re: Indian Broadband?
Aren't they still recovering from that Tsunami anyway? |
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vzfiosrox
join:2005-02-12
Tampa, FL
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| RE: can the backbone handle it?
maybe. there is a map that shows the undersea cables and it shows that india is connected to china's backbone which goes right to the u.s. and can support >7500Gbps+ it consists of about 20 cables and they also have a backhaul that is connected to europe which can support >25000Gbps+ from europe to the u.s. but only 500Gbps from india to europe. chinas backbone is also used by australia and new zealand along with many other asian nations... the european backbone to the u.s. has over 50 cables. the connection between europe and north american is the fastest undersea connection in the world. all current international speed records have been set using the trans atlantic cables..
i think that those cables can handle much more with some wave division multiplexing and new equiptment i think the cables should be fine. also there are probably many other unlit cables in the sea that were put there incase they needed more bandwidth.. |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
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Re: Indian Broadband?
said by Michieru2 :Aren't they still recovering from that Tsunami anyway? That wasn't really focussed on India, though small portions of the Indian coast were affected. It is just stupid how people act like India is going to be a better place to live because they have free 2mbps broadband to everyone... Well, you want to know the truth, I smell BULLSHIT.... There is no way they could do that in a country that lacks modern first-world infrastructure.
Get back to me when they reach our standards in a few decades or a century, if ever.
-Tzale
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uwKEYT
@shentel.net | bluster
More socialist bluster from the Indian government..... Telco's cannot offer a decent 2mbps paid connection, for free sounds like a joke. Even if they do, it'll come with a 5 MB/month download limit or some such ridiculous caveat. |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | reply to Tzale
Re: Indian Broadband?
If the biggest problem 50-some years after becoming an independent nation is lack of water in remote villages, that's pretty damn good progress.
Ya'll were still lynching blacks for a much longer time after the redcoats left. |
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kapil
The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL
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said by Tzale :Get back to me when they reach our standards in a few decades or a century, if ever. What standards might those be? More divorces than successful marriages? a shamefully high teen pregnancy rate?
The President's insistence that the jury is still out on global warming and evolution? Election fraud?
Advocating "life" while jailing a larger portion of its citizens than any other "developed" nation?
Citizenry buried to its eyeballs in debt - which is being financed by the very foreigners you spurn?
Kids who, despite years of schooling that costs more than it does anywhere else in the world, can't even speak properly the one language they do...can't tell the difference between 'your' and 'you're' or 'too' and 'to', or 'there' and 'their', yet they are #1 when it comes to complaining how they have been harmed by affirmative action which creates a level playing field for those who have been disadvantaged for centuries - like blacks on whose back this country and come of its oldest and most profitable companies were built or hispanics who are bi-lingual, work hard, pay taxes, take jobs you won't take - yet succeed in the face of racist name calling?
Would it be the shameful morals that allow you to wage war and kill as long as long as the killed aren't white skinned?
...or, let me guess, it's how the free market has got giant corporations stuffing a dildo up everyone who works for a living while it awards golden parachutes to those who lie and deceive for a living?
If you ask me, the biggest problem India, or the entire developing world for that matter, faces is continuing its development while borrowing the least amount of American "standards". |
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
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WHOAH. You need to get a grip on yourself. "Lynching blacks?" That has absolutely no place on this board.
Get a freakin' life. Broadband access and related topics are NOT major social issue worthy of being compared to slavery. And if you think it is you are truly a pathetic human being.
Adam |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Is this before or after...
...they arrest Richard Gere? |
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