patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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Increase the prices to astronomical rates for the Uni, to bankrupt the Uni. Or students will still p2p since the free service wont have alot of the content/enough of the content students want, plus then there is pr0n and warez, moviez, and tv ripz?
Or is the plan to reduce p2p from a mainstream thing to a rare thing to lessen the chances of more students being caught? |
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snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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Or the music/video will be so loaded down with DRM that it is useless and students will look for other ways of obtaining free music.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
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| Buying a legit service doesn't work.
Look at purdue. They offered Rukus for free to all freshman for a few years and no one used it. The fact that most people have ipods automatically means if your free service isn't itunes, it absolutely has no chance. And due to no one using it, they cancelled the service. Most likely because it was probably ridiculously expensive and in the end the students owned nothing because it was a subscription service. Of course upon cancelling the service the RIAA decided to make an example out of them and bombard them with complaints. Even though students were not downloading illegal files any less while having the free service, the complaint count went from 40 a year to over a 1000 a year. This is why no school should ever attempt to offer a free service, because when you find out it's worthless and cancel it, the RIAA will attack. |
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David
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I guess if they close the network ports to the outside world they could as least contain the problem internally.
Besides if the network is a private network, the RIAA really has no grounds at this point because the sharing is internally, not externally. So in order to get any free files off that network you would have to be a student (or faculty member) of that university.
It would be the same thing I am doing with my own p2p network. It's a private network, no outside influence at all.
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2 edits |  Ruckus.com & Napster have done University deals
Many Universities and colleges have signed deals with Ruckus.com and Napster to provide free music to registered students.
»Ruckus.com & Napster
»www.ruckusnetwork.com/
»news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6163173.html
»www.napster.com/napster_on_campus.html
Note that Vanderbilt has done their deal with Napster.»www.napster.com/napster_on_campus.html
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Re: Buying a legit service doesn't work.
said by insomniac84  :The fact that most people have ipods automatically means if your free service isn't itunes, it absolutely has no chance. Well then the spoiled rich brats will just have to use another player. Oh, woe is them. Free music or keep their iPod and be thieves.
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What will RIAA do then?
Oh, I don't know, maybe profit from the royalties? |
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Derspankster
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| The RIAA Will NEVER Win
The day is coming when this whole mess will come to a head and the RIAA will not win. They have become one, if not the, most hated organization in this country. The continue to shoot themselves in the foot by bringing one horrendous PR nightmare after another on themselves. The RIAA is dead already, they just don't have the sense to lay down.
I don't know how it will all pan out but it's over for the RIAA, the people have spoken. Eventually, the government and the legislature will respond. I do believe that artists should be compensated for their work. It isn't the artists that are making all the fuss as we all know. It's the fat cat hanger-ons that have been taking all the money from the artists since day one. This guys are about as popular as a heart attack and their stock only continues to dive into the shitter. They're on the verge of becoming irrelevant. Perhaps good music will someday be delivered to the audience without the RIAA's greedy intercession and Gestapo tactics. Let's hope.
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Re: The RIAA Will NEVER Win
said by Derspankster :This guys are about as popular as a heart attack and their stock only continues to dive into the shitter. They're on the verge of becoming irrelevant. The RIAA is not a company, it is an association of companies that does lobbying and other services. You knew that right?? And the stock for the majority of companies that are members of the RIAA are doing just fine.
Major RIAA members:
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All members:
»www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
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Re: Buying a legit service doesn't work.
Who is going to buy a new mp3 player to gain access to a free subscription service for a year? People aren't made of money and a lot of people like their ipods. So offering a service that doesn't work with the ipod makes the service unusable by most students.
Also, fyi, downloading music isn't theft it's copyright infringement. No one is a thief.
Basically any service that uses drm is pointless unless every mp3 player can support it. Since such drm doesn't exist, these subscription services are pointless and a waste of money. |
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mrchris
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North Babylon, NY | Let's not forget the lack of variety when they think most students like the popular crap, wrong. |
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insomniac84
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Re: The RIAA Will NEVER Win
After looking at that list, it is clear. Sony is the worst company in the world. |
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shimonmor
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said by Derspankster : They have become one, if not the, most hated organization in this country. I bet 9 out of 10 people never heard of the RIAA or don't care. You and I may not like them but the vast majority couldn't give a darn. |
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d0nni3q
join:2006-11-05
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The Pennsylvania State University has already done this and it works just fine.
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Derspankster
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Re: The RIAA Will NEVER Win
said by TKJunkMail :said by Derspankster :This guys are about as popular as a heart attack and their stock only continues to dive into the shitter. They're on the verge of becoming irrelevant. The RIAA is not a company, it is an association of companies that does lobbying and other services. You knew that right?? And the stock for the majority of companies that are members of the RIAA are doing just fine. Major RIAA members: » www.riaa.com/about/leadership/board.aspAll members: » www.riaa.com/about/members/default.asp Yes, I know it's an org, not a company. And, by stock I meant public image not any one companies stock value.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to David
Re: Well
What was i2hub then? RIAA infiltrated that. Uni p2p still can work if they block incoming (most Unis do). To truly block p2p they would need to filter outgoing ports to just port 80, so it becomes almost impossible to connect to anything other than a website |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | I2Hub worked between universities hooked into Internet2, which the RIAA and MPAA just happen to be members of. |
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| reply to insomniac84
Re: Buying a legit service doesn't work.
Same thing happened here at Michigan Tech. Ruckus was offered free to all on campus students first, then to all students, and it was a nice luxury for a few months, till the licenses stopped renewing, and the selection of music ran dry.
Now its practically dead.
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said by TKJunkMail :said by insomniac84 :The fact that most people have ipods automatically means if your free service isn't itunes, it absolutely has no chance. Well then the spoiled rich brats will just have to use another player. Oh, woe is them. Free music or keep their iPod and be thieves. Why in God's name would I have to stop using the device I presently use and buy a new one with the same capabilities just to satisfy someone else's requirement for copy protection?
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