goodwithbad
@pacbell.net | sounds about right
just upgrade to handle the traffic |
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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| Interesting
Assuming they can correctly identify "infected" machines, I think this idea is good. My main (only) concern would be that the ISP would somehow flag a "normal" PC as infected and then quarantine it.
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woody7
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Torrance, CA
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·DSL EXTREME
| hmmm......
why is this news to anyone? A lot of us have known for years.If the ISP'S really wanted all this crap to go away, they could go a long way in making this happen. JMT 
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David
No,there is another.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | Well assuming cox got it right
this could be a rather interesting approach. Could benefit the ISP in a cost savings to the for them. |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
·Verizon FIOS
| Moving...
now, Wouldn't you rather be with an ISP that is "pro-active" in keeping the service clean for it's client base (thus attracting users that want this feature) than with an ISP whose corporate attitude is to through more at marketing than IT services... |
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| One Small Baby Step of Improvement
Weeding out the infected slugs from the flow of normal traffic is always a good thing, but I'll be more impressed when Cox stops overselling the service and putting too many people on the same node.  |
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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
1 edit | I applaud Cox . . .
for their initiative in protecting the rest of the us from their infected customers.
Now if only OTHER ISPs would get off their ass* and do the same thing, the problems of spam and trojan infection would be mitigated tremendously.
*Hear me Comcast?
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blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to wifi4milez
Re: Interesting
Or worse,.. state in their AUP that bittorrent usage is not allowed. Then, set their network to detect bittorrent traffic (used legitimately), deem it against their policy, and limit the user to pages on their site about bittorrent use. Then, ask for the user to check the AUP, and have them call tech support to release their account once bittorrent traffic has ceased. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: |  sounds good
i like the idea. nice to hear that some providers are making an effort to solve the problem. |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| reply to blueeyesm
Re: Interesting
said by blueeyesm  :Or worse,.. state in their AUP that bittorrent usage is not allowed. Then, set their network to detect bittorrent traffic (used legitimately), deem it against their policy, and limit the user to pages on their site about bittorrent use. Then, ask for the user to check the AUP, and have them call tech support to release their account once bittorrent traffic has ceased. Not that I would condone such actions, but if an ISP did that it would be perfectly within their rights in almost all circumstances. You are paying to use THEIR network. If THEY don't want something on THEIR network, it's THEIR choice, not yours. The extent of what you can do is find another provider.
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to goodwithbad
Re: sounds about right
You must work in marketing or sales. |
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rhard49
join:2001-04-12
Merrick, NY
| Within reason
I've seen ISP's implement it differently in a T1 environment you usally got and email pointing out a problem and giving you 24 hours to clean it up. I've see cablevision do it and they just cut you off, have fun getting to the tools you need to fix it without service. |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
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Re: Interesting
Exactly right. YOU are PAYING them for the unrestricted use of their access network. Some here seem to use the idea of it being their network to justify any abuse of their customers, with the attitude that "they can do whatever they want. It's THEIR network".
They are being paid for access. To me, that means unrestricted access. Of course, if they crap on their customers in this manner, their customers will crap on them by taking business elsewhere, or, getting around their restrictions. |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by Fatal Vector :They are being paid for access. To me, that means unrestricted access. Every ISP I've ever seen has had a AUP and/or TOS that spells out what a user can, or in most cases can't do with the account. Almost every time there are two provisions, one that says a user's activities can not have a detrimental affect on the network and the other is that the policy may be changed without notice. You are NOT paying for unrestricted access. Heck, ISPs don't even get unrestricted access. They can and have been cut off from their upstream providers for violating policies.
I'm not saying it's right and that ISPs should just arbitrarily block a service just because it can be used for something illegitimate. I'm just saying that it is within their powers to do so.
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Tweak
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join:2002-06-08
Oklahoma City, OK | reply to David
Re: Well assuming cox got it right
At&t should take a page from Internet providers that are taking proactive steps to protect the network. It might keep most of your mail servers from being black listed. |
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David
No,there is another.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
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·magicjack.com
·AT&T Midwest
| said by Tweak :At&t should take a page from Internet providers that are taking proactive steps to protect the network. It might keep most of your mail servers from being black listed. Well if I go by these people I would say that "Polish telecom" seems to be in first place. but that's just a guess 
»www.senderbase.org/
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | reply to Fatal Vector
Re: Interesting
That's why there is 1 year contract exists just to piss those customers off even more.
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Tweak
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Oklahoma City, OK
·Cox HSI
1 edit | reply to David
Re: Well assuming cox got it right
Try spamhaus
»www.spamhaus.org/statistics/networks.lasso
number 2
This case number 2 isn't anything to be proud of.
Why can't you get your boss's to shut these places down david? |
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Topmounter
Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | reply to wifi4milez
Re: Interesting
It's not hard at all to identify an infected machine.
It is nice to see an ISP actually be responsible and try to clean up their network, not to mention the Internet in general. |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs:
·DIRECTV
·magicjack.com
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Tweak
Re: Well assuming cox got it right
Well it's not like they don't know about them. I've been told before that they use Senderbase more than Spamhaus. Can't say I know why, I send them the list, although I do have to admit 2-4 years ago Spamhaus was up to about 141 of them for us and now today we sit at 60. It's an improvement but as to how far I am not sure. You would think that each spam reporting site would keep the same level of data but I am guessing not.
Then again I don't know where Senderbase or Spamhaus gets their information.
As for me, I can't really complain about 60, it's much better than the 141 years ago we had. I have also heard about some of those on our list are class C's that were sold to other network providers. So inherently it get's our name regardless. I am really curious how many of those 60 are farmed out to other providers. I would be willing to bet it's probably 10% or higher.
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