BonezX
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1 edit | so....
does anyone else see something wrong with this picture ?
removing the right of it's citizens to privacy and removing their right to seek damages from the companies responsible for giving out their personal information.
i see lots of companies, and less and less actual "people" involved.
(side note what's next, instead of collecting taxes, using CC numbers and withdrawing money from peoples accounts when it's needed ?) |
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kapil
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Chicago, IL
| You see...
...the good thing about having multiple branches of government is that El Presidente can't just wave a wand and get whatever the F it is that he desires.
They are OUR employees, these politicians, and it's about time they get back to work, OUR WORK, before we fire some more of them. |
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CMoore2004
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| That's how it's supposed to be. That's not how it is. The president can and does do what he desires. For being our employees, they sure won't give any John Doe the time of day.
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nutcr0cker
join:2003-04-02
Chandler, AZ
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Re: so....
Hmmm... so immunity for the crooks that treat our privacy like their public data. but nothing for small businesses ruined by lawsuits. Maybe Roy L. Pearson, Jr can sue the fellow republiCONS for another 65 billion »www.overlawyered.com/2007/04/roy···_mi.html |
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kapil
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Chicago, IL
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Re: You see...
It will, and has been - although at a very slow pace and in a rather strange way, get better.
The democratic control of Congress helps. Not because Democrat politicians are any less slimy than Republican ones, but because it's just another set of eyeballs with conflicting priorities.
The electorate has had enough....and the stupid people took a back seat in the last mid-terms and the thinking crowd made its opinion known. I think this effect will be even more pronounced in the next general election. |
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sd70mac666
join:2003-06-05
Saint Albans, VT | reply to CMoore2004
Since Bush forgot the fact that Congress is controlled by Democrats, it's highly unlikely he'll get what he wants. |
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axus
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| Difficult position for the companies
I think it's hard for companies to resist pressure from the government to do these things. Especially when there are implied favors like looking the other way about anti-trust issues (AT&T). The politicians and/or bureaucrats that enticed them should share in the punishment here. The companies should not get a free pass for their actions, ignorance or pressure is no excuse to break laws or contracts. |
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TKJunkMail
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|  Does not grant immunity going forward; only past actions
The amendment should be passed for the reason stated below by the Justice Dept. The companies responded to governmental requests in good faith and should not be penalized.
"If companies are alleged to have cooperated with the government to protect our nation against another attack, they should not be held liable for any assistance they are alleged to have provided," Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said.
The immunity would be limited to assistance from Sept. 11, 2001, to the date the measure becomes law.
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Re: You see...
said by sd70mac666  :Since Bush forgot the fact that Congress is controlled by Democrats, it's highly unlikely he'll get what he wants. I would hope so. He vetoed the war funding bill that had
timetables, and now he wants them to pass this?
Not a chance in Hell this is going to be passed.
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N3OGH
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Philly burbs | OH Boy...
Here it comes.
I give it exactly 45 min before someone compares Bush to Hitler.... 
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Rob
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| said by N3OGH :Here it comes. I give it exactly 45 min before someone compares Bush to Hitler.... You just did...
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fiberguy
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Re: You see...
It's beautiful having Dems in Congress now in control... because the people, last year, took away his (Bush's) rubber stamp. So Bush will have to figure out another way to get his way. Maybe when he's done being King of America, maybe, since he's doing so good at it, he can go be king or Iraqistan.
On a side note, I still think it's funny to watch the Bush republicans, hard to believe they still exist, get up in arms over the fact that Bush didn't make the list of most influential people. Fox news, among other conservative hot air radio people, have been devoting much of their time over this.
Guess it goes to show that you can't be king for long by abusing your authority and telling the people to screw off.
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major marco
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| Not Surprising
The current administration wants immunity for itself and its evil minions from all of its clusterfucks...Iraq, Halliburton, New Orleans, FEMA, Darth Cheney drunken shooting sprees, NSA spying, etc. so this latest doesn't really come as any surprise. It's just adding insult to injury. When will this country ever wake up and have the obviously insane Emperor with no clothes removed from office permanently.
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keybrdmssiah
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Re: OH Boy...
bush = hitler
5 minutes  |
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morbo
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Re: Does not grant immunity going forward; only past actions
let's be realistic here: they aren't going to just stop spying on us because a law is passed. the NSA spy rooms aren't going to be dismantled. AT&T thinks they have covered their ass by changing their TOS to basically state that they can do whatever the hell they want with your info. they own it. |
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petecellar
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Philadelphia, PA | reply to N3OGH
Re: OH Boy...
but... you just did! |
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fiberguy
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said by N3OGH :Here it comes. I give it exactly 45 min before someone compares Bush to Hitler.... It would be nice if they did... because eventually even Hitler took the pill and did himself in.
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Re: Does not grant immunity going forward; only past actions
said by TKJunkMail :The amendment should be passed for the reason stated below by the Justice Dept. The companies responded to governmental requests in good faith and should not be penalized. "If companies are alleged to have cooperated with the government to protect our nation against another attack, they should not be held liable for any assistance they are alleged to have provided," Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said.
The immunity would be limited to assistance from Sept. 11, 2001, to the date the measure becomes law. Have you ever posted anything that goes against phone industry, movie industry or music industry. This is not an attack on your but just a question.
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JSRoman
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Re: Not Surprising
said by major marco :The current administration wants immunity for itself and its evil minions from all of its clusterfucks...Iraq, Halliburton, New Orleans, FEMA, Darth Cheney drunken shooting sprees, NSA spying, etc. so this latest doesn't really come as any surprise. It's just adding insult to injury. When will this country ever wake up and have the obviously insane Emperor with no clothes removed from office permanently. 01/2009
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texans20
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| They Need to be Sued
A company should never blindly give private info to the US Government. The concept is simple, all that is needed is a warrant signed by a judge. After the judge signs the warrant, then the phone company must give up all requested records, but not a moment sooner.
The "war on terror" can be fought full force without sacrificing privacy. Honestly, are people really thinking terrorists are using their home phones to call Osama to plan something out? Data mining and wiretapping mass communications does nothing. |
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