powerhog
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Owasso, OK | Corps
Are corporations afforded Constitutional rights? |
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Cabal
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Boston, MA | Reminds me of a famous quote
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary bandwidth deserve neither liberty nor FiOS."
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MASantangelo
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|  Verizon lost me as a customer
As much as I have dreams about having a FIOS connection if I have to worry about them passing on my personal information without a warrant for no reason other than because they demanded it then they will never see a cent from me.
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xerxes3642
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Saint Charles, MO
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| In the same vein
Do they clam that passing on information to third party spammers and marketing firms is also protected speech? What about selling lists of credit card numbers? I hope the bush administration realizes the long-term implecations of their short-term fix for their own illegal activities. |
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TechieZero
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Re: Corps
said by powerhog  :Are corporations afforded Constitutional rights? Same question I was thinking of too. They are made up of people who have rights other, than that I got nutin.
This is going to turn in to a Bush bash fest soon. However the spin given in these articles don't even scratch the surface of this topic. |
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PhoenixDown
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Are corporations afforded Constitutional rights?
Yes, I believe so, as corporations are treated in a legal sense as 'a person'.
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quatrix
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said by TechieZero :They are made up of people who have rights other, than that I got nutin. What? |
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Michieru2
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On what grounds?
Even if they are to be treated as individuals the constitution states that unless they have probable cause or a warrant they are not authorized to give that data to anyone.
By Verizon participating in giving out data, they by no means should be dismissed from the investigation. |
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miscnick
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I could have FIOS installed here tomorrow, I get flyers from verizon at least 4-5 times a week begging me to get it.
You know what they can do.... |
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Michieru2
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Miami, FL | reply to quatrix
Re: Corps
"They are made up of people who have rights other, than that I got nutin."
I think what he was trying to say is:
They are made up of people who have rights, other than that I got nothing. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by powerhog :Are corporations afforded Constitutional rights? Yes. Under the law they are citizens of the US. That is not usual in other countries where corporations are not considered persons.
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mmadd29
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Re: In the same vein
said by xerxes3642 :Do they clam that passing on information to third party spammers and marketing firms is also protected speech? What about selling lists of credit card numbers? I hope the bush administration realizes the long-term implecations of their short-term fix for their own illegal activities. Do you really think they care about the long term effects?? |
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quetwo
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East Lansing, MI | reply to powerhog
Re: Corps
Corporations are not afforded Constitutional rights, however, those working for the corporation do. If they are working under the direction of the corporation, they are not covered. |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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said by Michieru2 :"They are made up of people who have rights other, than that I got nutin." I think what he was trying to say is: They are made up of people who have rights, other than that I got nothing. yup. Sorry for the misplaced comma.  |
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russotto
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Collegeville, PA | Nice red herring
The first amendment doesn't prevent two parties from entering an enforceable contract in which they agree to keep information private. |
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Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA
| Rotten to the Core
Did you expect Verizon not to cooperate with the NSA when its chief legal counsel is none other than William Barr, former attorney general for Bush the 1st and a former CIA executive?
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woody7
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Torrance, CA | reply to TechieZero
Re: Corps
It should be a "bush" bash who is asking for this? If the Dems pass this it will be a "Dem" bash too.....I could be wrong, but I thought it was against the constitution to pass laws to cover crimes "retroactively"?
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RayW
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| Where were all these privacy people in the 80's?
My sister worked for the FBI as a clerk back in the late 70's and early 80's. One of her regular tasks was to go to the phone company with generic John Doe warrants and copy a bunch of records (I THINK it was Xerox, never asked, don't want to know).
The only difference between then and now is that there are a lot more records to copy but they can copy them a lot faster and in more detail. Oh, and one other thing, George Bush Jr. is president now, a big factor in the media coverage.
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powerhog
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Re: Corps
If true, then I wonder if they've fully considered the implications of their case.
By arguing that "sensitive" customer information is available to be distributed via the First Amendment, then what's to stop one of their employees from giving away corporate "secrets" using the same argument?
The outcome of this should prove interesting. |
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nixen
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said by woody7 :It should be a "bush" bash who is asking for this? If the Dems pass this it will be a "Dem" bash too.....I could be wrong, but I thought it was against the constitution to pass laws to cover crimes "retroactively"? What gave you the impression that this group of wannabe-fascists cares about some tupid piece of paper?
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