JackBauer
join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY | To the node?
Or to your house? No doubt DOCSIS will provide a great improvement, but aren't the houses per node way too high to seriously compete with FTTH? |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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 ·Comcast
|  Possible in a year or 2; not likely until 10 yrs from now
Those kinds of speeds(100 mbps and up) to customers will be technically feasible in a year or two from US cable companies. But to make them widely available, infrastructure would have to be vastly updated, with numerous node splits in every neighborhood across the companies footprint. And that involves spending a great deal of money. Don't expect these speeds in most areas for up to 10yrs away.
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doc_guy
@charter.com
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Re: To the node?
said by JackBauer  :... but aren't the houses per node way too high to seriously compete with FTTH? Nope |
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fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA
| TOS violations?
That's rather neat that such huge amounts of data can be downloaded so quickly. What they fail to report, however, is that customers actually downloading that will have their service terminated for downloading too much.  |
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Agent_haito
join:2002-09-20
Winston Salem, NC | hmm, maybe they will raise their caps in proportion to the stream increases..one can only hope. |
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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | AT&T better bring it
By watching the headlines day in day out, it seems that AT&T is getting left in the dust.
Sure you may have eaten your babies, but what's next?  |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Re: Possible in a year or 2; not likely until 10 yrs from now
said by TKJunkMail :Those kinds of speeds(100 mbps and up) to customers will be technically feasible in a year or two from US cable companies. But to make them widely available, infrastructure would have to be vastly updated, with numerous node splits in every neighborhood across the companies footprint. And that involves spending a great deal of money. Don't expect these speeds in most areas for up to 10yrs away. Who knows maybe in 10 years people will need 100 Mbps. To be honest( and I'm a more speed the better guy ) who really needs 100 Mbps? Unless you're trying to download a bunch of blu-ray dvds. To stream something in 1080p would only take 16-20 Mbps. How many sites are going to do that? |
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JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
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said by TKJunkMail :Those kinds of speeds(100 mbps and up) to customers will be technically feasible in a year or two from US cable companies. But to make them widely available, infrastructure would have to be vastly updated, with numerous node splits in every neighborhood across the companies footprint. And that involves spending a great deal of money. Don't expect these speeds in most areas for up to 10yrs away. 1- Node splits are already happening.
2- 5.7 billion being spent this year on capital infrastructure hence Comcast stock taking a hit lately
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | reply to Gilitar
Re: AT&T better bring it
Don't ATT always get left in the dust? they are always to slow to bring out new stuff. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to Gilitar
Because the Bells don't constantly issue press releases. |
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yaw
join:2004-05-19
Morgantown, WV | as if it matters...
150Mb download will mean 1Mb upload
They just don't get it. I don't want faster download speeds. I'm happy with the 5Mb down I get right now. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to JackBauer
Re: To the node?
They'll have to do a lot of node splits I imagine to rol out DOCSIS 3.0 |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to yaw
Re: as if it matters...
1mbit upstream is giving them too much credit, with 150 down you would be lucky to see 512 up.
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crippy
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join:2005-05-17
some place
·Comcast
| upstream ??????
i dont think any1 really can use that much speed.. if you go to see not too many servers from where people download stuff would be having such speeds either.. although a boost in upstream by comcast would really be great.. something like 5mbps upstream..  |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Kearnstd
Re: as if it matters...
said by Kearnstd :1mbit upstream is giving them too much credit, with 150 down you would be lucky to see 512 up. for the record Charter offers 10Mbps/1Mbps |
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Yauch
join:2005-06-24
1 edit | reply to Gilitar
Re: AT&T better bring it
What's next? Enjoy being the nations biggest ISP. Sure they're the last company to ever innovate, but nobody outside of these boards ever notices.
Edit: Links: D'OH! |
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Cleric4
join:2002-03-31
00000 | reply to Kearnstd
Re: as if it matters...
Comcast already offers 16mbps/1meg tiers in certain areas. |
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NetDroid2
join:2004-08-16
Excelsior, MN | Thats great and all but....
how much is going to be shared with the rest of your node?
Anyone know what the eventual speed of a DOCSIS 3.0 node is going to be?
I would assume some extremely large number like Gb or Tb. |
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ogar
join:2001-12-05
Ephrata, PA
clubs:
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Re: upstream ??????
Its not about what do people need it for now but what we can use it for in the future. I can imagine a few things that 100meg srevice could be used for but until it becomes readily available nothing new will be developed to use it.
1 example would be for gaming. With 100meg download the next gen gaming systems could become mostly digital.
they could also provide game rentals where you could download the full game within minutes instead of driving to blockbuster.
Another example would be online storage. Instead of having your operating system and software installed on a single PC you could bootup any pc connected and fully use your online computer.
Just some ideas. |
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riskable
join:2003-07-01
Jacksonville, FL
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Are you kidding me? I can use 100Mbit with a crappy old desktop PC hooked up to a couple security cameras. Not only that, but I have four PCs on my home network that I'd love to backup nightly to a remote server. That is about a terabyte of data and it isn't even a remotely "extreme" example. Here's some ways *I* would use 100Mbit (assuming synchronous speeds here--DOCSIS 3.0 requires it):
* I'd finally have enough bandwidth to setup the family intranet across three states. Which would provide shared TV (why subscribe to cable TV in three places when you can just hook up one badass DVR and share it?), shared storage, redundant backups, and our own private phone network.
* Remote security cam monitoring with real-time, remote storage of the feeds (so if someone breaks in and steals all the equipment the video is safely located at my sister's house).
* I'd finally be able to host my website at my house... With my own video blog. Hell, my wife and son could have theirs too and we'd still have enough bandwidth left for watching streaming HDTV and VoIP. In fact, why bother uploading to YouTube when you can host it out of your house?
* I'd be able to setup whole online businesses from the house with entire teams of employees all working from home. With high-quality, on-demand video conference calling why bother having an "office building" at all? The office of the future might just be dedicated rooms in people's homes.
* Streaming HDTV in more than one room. HDTV streams can get up to 25Mbits each. With a 100Mbit connection that is only four TVs capable of watching at the same time and that bandwidth will have to be shared with my streaming security cameras, my nightly backups of data, my shared data, and everything other thing I'm doing on the network.
* Shared video and music libraries. Why bother buying a copy of The Matrix when my sister's media server has it ready-to-go on her video server?
* I can even think of distributed protocols like bittorrent that not only share a given file (or small collections of files) but whole damned repositories of data. If you had, say, 25Mbits and 25GB to spare you could participate in vastly distributed caching networks that speed up downloads of popular content for everyone.
* It would drastically improve the ability of people to work from home. Imagine if your network shares were just as fast at home as they were on the corporate network. Why go to the office to get the DVD to reinstall some software when you can just download it in seconds?
* The more bandwidth you have, the less likely you are to run into contention. Would you bother with traffic shaping and QOS if you only ever used 30% of your 100MBit connection?
* VoIP calls right now are of a very low quality. Imagine stereo conference calling with a 256kps stream instead of 16 (common right now). You could even do surround-sound or even high-def video!
* It would transform online gaming. Having all that extra bandwidth would enable in-game real-time video feeds of various real-world locations (or whatever you wanted really). Not only that, but it would enable things like more detailed physics, enhanced collision detection, and larger online worlds (not to mention that 800MB game patches would download in an instant).
The applications are limitless. Just because your mind can't think of a way to use such bandwidth doesn't men others won't think of "that thing you won't be able to live without."
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