brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | Yes!
Lets make this happen with no bandwidth limits! Time for a new internet tax for everyone! |
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Edrick
Premium
join:2004-09-11
Orlando, FL | Uhh? Woo?
So when they say majority how much are we talking here? Other nations already have 100 Mbit and in 7 years from now is that really a huge difference? Verizon is already offering 50 Mbit in some areas. |
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rodrod5
join:2001-02-28
Houston, TX
| a waste
Nearly 50 Percent of Americans Have Little Use for Internet and Cell Phones, Survey Finds
»www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,270392,00.html
this is a stupid idea and a waste... |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | I submitted that item a few days ago to Karl. Never got FP. |
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gravesg
join:2006-12-21
Norfolk, VA
| reply to rodrod5
^^ you apparently don't respect the internet.
as for 100mbps in every home ... it can't happen. not even in the next 10 years.
well actually it could happen but their would be people running servers left and right putting data centers out of biz .
why pay 100$ a month for a 20mbit line to the net for my server when i can get my neighbor to do it for like 20$ lol
personally i'd run maybe 10,20 game servers at 40$ a month on symmetrical 100mbps, and have my main pc as a WAREZ HOT BOX lol. |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| shure.... now what?
I'm sure companies are going to be falling all overthemselves to make that a reality and take a LOSS after tons of freebies were already handed out to telcos... AT&T, Verizon. And cable rate increases are a cableco's best friend.. I'm sure they're chomping at the bit to make this work.
Har, har, har...
Oil companies are dying to get cheap gasoline to the pumps too.. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| There isn't any content there
It's good to look at this issue. A resolution isn't really supposed to do anything but act as a call for action. Hopefully the call to action will actually lead to better study of the issue. I think a good starting point would be to review the existing state and commercial projects, and see what strategies work and don't work.
I'd hope that the government could pay for the last mile fiber infrastructure, and let companies compete to supply the internet connection to that point. Also, government shouldn't prevent anyone from selling an alternate last mile solution, that would be communism ;p |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
4 edits | With tax credits will come deployment
He has a good idea in tax credits for deployment so long as it isn't a Verizon/PA redux. Double the credit if the deployment is with gen technologies.
»rockefeller.senate.gov/Issues/te···rnet.htm
And looking at Open Secrets his bread doesn't look overly buttered by the tech industry. Shocking.
Of course it doesn't help matters that 1/2 the people don't give a crap about the internet (according to a recent Pew survey). |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI
| And this will enhance my life how?
I can't see how 100Mbps is going to make my life better.
How fast will my Internet connection have to be to get it to paint my house or cut my lawn? That may be worth something! 
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
| reply to gravesg
Re: a waste
said by gravesg  :^^ you apparently don't respect the internet. as for 100mbps in every home ... it can't happen. not even in the next 10 years. well actually it could happen but their would be people running servers left and right putting data centers out of biz . why pay 100$ a month for a 20mbit line to the net for my server when i can get my neighbor to do it for like 20$ lol personally i'd run maybe 10,20 game servers at 40$ a month on symmetrical 100mbps, and have my main pc as a WAREZ HOT BOX lol. Ever think that in the future data centers will be offering gigabit connections and not megabit connections as the norm for most servers? Or perhaps we will reach a point where bandwidth usage will reach a near maximum in terms of usage? Don't forget data centers offer 99.99999% reliability, NO ISP can offer that.
-Tzale
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: With tax credits will come deployment
said by ColorBASIC :He has a good idea in tax credits for deployment so long as it isn't a Verizon/PA redux. Double the credit if the deployment is with gen technologies. » rockefeller.senate.gov/Issues/te···rnet.htmAnd looking at Open Secrets his bread doesn't look overly buttered by the tech industry. Shocking. Of course it doesn't help matters that 1/2 the people don't give a crap about the internet (according to a recent Pew survey). By 2015, the Internet WILL be a part of EVERYONE'S life.... The Internet only started becoming a dominant force in the USA in the last 5-7 years, give it some time to develop...
The elderly don't count, they are ignorant to adopting new technology.
-Tzale
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to burgermeister
Re: And this will enhance my life how?
Looks like you're in the 50% who use the internet but don't really give too big a crap about it.
»www.pewinternet.org/press_release.asp?r=140 |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Edrick
Re: Uhh? Woo?
Symmetrical ?
Available to the masses ... or the few ?
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| reply to rodrod5
Re: a waste
No it isn't... As we move through the years, the Internet is becoming more and more a dominant force in our lives... It is only a matter of time before everything is connected to the internet.
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
1 edit | reply to Tzale
Re: With tax credits will come deployment
100Mb would be used/needed for services already available elsewhere like HD-IPTV. Nothing new to be seen here. For everything else you don't "need" 100Mb service, especially synchronous 100Mb service.
The benefit will come mainly from competition driving improvements in service and prices. As far as content...it'll just be another delivery method for the SAME content. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
2 edits | reply to Tzale
Re: a waste
It's not a dominant force in our lives. You live in a DSLR tech bubble. According to Pew, the majority of Americans, while having internet service, aren't obsessed with it. And even if people suddenly became obsessed, 100Mb symmetrical is overkill and unrealistic.
Dominant is a vague term. Electricity is dominant. Water is dominant. A 100Mb internet ain't. |
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dr2500
join:2005-09-09
Lancaster, PA | A subscriber will demand between 35 and 70 Mbps by 2010
I said this before but some people keep bashing me on it.
We will see OVER 100Mbps by 2015. Gigabit to the home?? |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
2 edits | reply to brianiscool
Re: Yes!
•We need a new tax as the old ones are getting stale. •The government is the best organization to decide how the Internet should be put together.
•People need this so we can spend more time in our home eating our super sized fries
•We need it symmetrical so we can share cool videos of we found for "free" from the other 100Mbps US users |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: And this will enhance my life how?
Well, it's not that I don't care as much as I don't get what all the hype is about. I don't have any issues with the service I have now and overall, I'm pretty happy with it. What exactly are people downloading that would make them want that kind of speed?
From what I've seen with the people I know who use the shit out of the Internet, it's all about entertainment. While I think that's fine for them, I just don't like the idea of tax credits being used so someone can have more fun.
The money given away for such tax credits can be used for more important things, IMO. Alternative energy research would one of the first things on my list.
So where am I missing the point here? What does the average Internet user do that requires that kind of speed?
Tax credits still represent money lost for the government. It's gonna cost someone (us).
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gravesg
join:2006-12-21
Norfolk, VA
| reply to Tzale
Re: a waste
now you know how reluctant data centers are on upgrading their network. although you do raise a point.
how many of us would really need our server on 1Gbit ???
well i can think of a few things but thats me.
game servers only require about 5Mbit's of dedicated bandwidth both ways.
as for other applications, you idea is proly the best i've seen at dslr. man when 1Gbit is standard for data centers that will be a marvelous time.
i really hope cable tries to push ftth insted of docsis 3.0
just seems like fiber is the better choice here |
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