majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
1 edit | hmm
Yes 400 down and up So cablevision can use the narad technology to give 1gig up and down links to each house via fiber.
Anyway technically so can comcast by bonding channels.
That seemed like a dont forget about us comment from verizon.
Also he stated the onts are capable of 400Mbs not what speeds they can produce without affecting the other people on that node.
Can you atleast report the story right. |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| neither speed cap will be the norm in the next 3-5 years
Unless Verizon intends to subdivide its current node structure using GPONS, 400mbits is not a realistic throughput at the consumer end, more of a backbone capable speed serving every 3-10 subscribers.
... and for that speed, you need a Wallet upgrade as well! |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
| Back and forth
All this childish "mine is bigger than yours" is really demeaning to the professional face they try to put on.
My hope is that the two companies (and hopefully more to come) competitors have technologies that are competitive against each other. If one where to stomp the other that would be very bad for the consumer. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | heh
I won't really be impressed until either of them offer those services in my area! Good to see competition, even if its only vaporware at the moment. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Talk is cheap
I'll believe anything Comcast or Verizon says AFTER I see people getting it. Until then, they can talk all they want. |
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Ream0
@rr.com
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Rickez 
rawgerz
vinnie97
thumbs down from:
vinnie97
| This makes me SICK!
I'm getting tired of the Daily load of Verizon shit here on bbr! Most Verizon served areas can't even get DSL! If you can get FIOS...Then it's fine and dandy! Then SHUT UP! |
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
| reply to Maxo
Re: Back and forth
What really needs to happen is both sides need to get it in gear. Like the old saying goes you can only download as fast as the other end can upload. Well me being a gamer, being able to download at 150mbps means nothing if the other end is dead slow. Lets get the ball rolling on both ends and stop talking about who can do what. When you do what you say you can do then lets start talking about who is better than who. As of now I still see things the same as they were last year. Some of you as of now are able to enjoy the speed of Fios and I am very happy for that but like I said being a gamer it doesnt help if everyone else is still at a crawl. |
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Dagda1175
join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA | and upstream will still be ignored
I'd rather have 100 symmetrical than 400/66 (keeping with their current ratios)! |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | I can see Verizon offering 5000/56, for some reason upspeed is never considered. |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | reply to tmc8080
Re: neither speed cap will be the norm in the next 3-5 years
I agree this falls into the "who cares" category. My internet speeds havent even broken double digits. Unless Verizon is going to offer 400 speed, for $39 a month. |
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bill61982
join:2002-09-26
| reply to DaveNJ
Re: and upstream will still be ignored
OK, VZ is my provider. They give 3mbps to every new customer yet I'm still at 1.5mbps and was told that i must pay more to receive the same service as those new customers that pay less than me during their 1 yr promo.
UNBELIEVABLE, I'd be jumping for joy to get 3 mbps |
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dr2500
join:2005-09-09
Lancaster, PA | reply to Ream0
Re: This makes me SICK!
Don't click on Verizon links then 
Verizon FiOS Rocks! |
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
| reply to majortom1029
400Mbs, waaay past individual human info capacity
Excluding archiving / backups / library purposes, there ain't no human brain that can usefully handle 400 Mbps for very long.
Verizon should up their bitwise connect speed to 100 Mbps - max. out today's typical LAN data rate.
Users would get a burst of 100 Mbps, followed by a long pause, as the brain ponders the new input.
Wouldn't make a whole lot of difference in the *aggregate* bandwidth *per person* consumed, over time.
Leastwise not until we get to 3D holodecks.
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Government is like fire - a dangerous servant and a fearful master - George Washington
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all other forms of government. - Winston Churchill |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| I think Karl is just a little bit too much on the negative
side in his expectations of when Comcast will roll this out.
News reports out the last few days sure sound as if they're VERY committed to making this happen.
In fact, one I read said that in their view "2009 and 2010 was just too long".
If they're now looking at a cost of only a couple billion, which for them IS pocket change, what's to stop them from REALLY turning up the heat, REAL Soon?
We in the Comcast forum have seen how quickly they move on things. Powerboost is now everywhere already and even UL powerboost is rolling out at a very rapid pace.
Count Comcast out on this for a quick rollout?
I wouldn't be betting against them, that's for sure.
I think another, and perhaps bigger question is, what's going to now happen to Uverse in the face of all this?
Depending on who's side you're on..Verizons or Comcasts, the fact is that both technologies simply leave Uverse in the dust.
How long can AT&T ignore this threat?
Will they soon be ditching UVERSE in favor of their own FTTH strategy?
One would think they almost have to now at this point.
Or risk being left so far behind, they might never catch up.
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | Wow Wee!
Ok, this is a start of a revolution. Next I want to see who makes the first move. |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| Throw in an SLA for that and say Bye Bye to DS3's
Yeah so throw in a business class SLA and T1's, T3's, and the majority of your DS/OC connections become obsolete.
Seriously, we are paying a huge chunk of change for a partial T1 (512k sync) here at work. My god downloading anything at work sucks because I'm so used to the Comcast at home which bursts to 18/2 (falls back to 8/1 for larger transfers).
The only reason we can't go with a faster ISP is because we are a business and require business class service level agreement. So were stuck paying an exorbitant fee for crappy bandwidth.
Verizon's FIOS can take up the business sector by storm with these intense packages as long as they back them up with an SLA. The potential for them to make a killing is there. If we had FIOS available with T1 style guaranteed uptime I would jump on it for our company. Residential users won't need these types of speeds for many years.
And they are right, FIOS will only serve 14% of the US. Why should I have to relocate just to get FIOS. They can't build their network fast enough. It will be many years until it's footprint will be able to put a dent in the population. |
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
| !
Hmmm interesting, could this be a trend?
I am not referring to higher speeds, but the amount of bandwidth consumed. Are we migrating from high unlimited speeds towards more of a pay for the amount of traffic consumed on the pipe used?
The start of MB packages?
40GB per month for only 39.99!
(at speeds of 400mbps/400mbps)
150GB per month for only 79.99!
(at speeds of 400mbps/400mbps)
Verizon FiOS, we never stop working for you. |
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA | reply to Dagda1175
Re: and upstream will still be ignored
Actually BPON is only capable of 1/4 the upload or 100 down and 25 up and it can't do that to 32 houses at once. GPON raises it to 400 down 200 up. Cable is even more limited for upload than passive fiber. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Who needs 400 Mbps?
One could in a year or even less, download every song ever recorded, every movie ever made in HD format, every TV show ever made in HD format.
400 Mbps = 1.5 PETAbytes in a year. One would need 1500 one TB hard drives to store all that data. |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
1 edit | I don't want faster speeds...
I want lower prices! |
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