  stevennb Ok, But, Thats The Last Straw. Premium join:2001-05-08 Wayne, NJ
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"Special Assistance from HomeLand Security"? "Wiretaps"?
I think the Government needs to concentrate on more important things....such as...illegal immigration, Drugs flowing into this country,terrorism.
But I guess some kid in Cedar Rapids poses more of a threat with those evil mp3's of Fall Out Boy. -- "They moved my desk 4 times already this year and I used to be over by the window and I could see the squirrels and they were married, but then they moved my desk and they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler. |
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Some of the changes makes sense, but parts of it looks like nothing more than an attempt to pay off those who want to control when, how, and what you listen to (and a few other items).
I think they are lumping those who copy music for personal use or trade into the same boat as those who counterfeit money and shoot people who look like they may be trying to cut into the action. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. |
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join:2006-01-10 Buffalo, NY | Pandoras Box?
Wiretaps? Intend to?? Homeland Security??? What are we getting into here?
I'm just waiting for the first reply that says "If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about". |
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join:2006-08-12 TX | Alberto, get your head out your a$$
And there goes my tax money again. Alberto, get the hell out of there, let your chair cool off, get a hobby, and hopefully somebody else can do a decent job as attorney general. |
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  Pirate515 Premium join:2001-01-22 Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | reply to expert007 Re: Pandoras Box?
said by expert007 :I'm just waiting for the first reply that says "If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about." Taylor Troll is kinda slow today...
Also, doesn't Alberto have other more important things to worry about, like protecting his a** from getting fired over the scandal with these prosecutors? --
Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies... A MESSAGE to the RIAA and the MPAA: You shouldn't wound what you can't kill...
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This country so needs a revolution. All that matters in this nation is the corporation and how it can become more profitable. People mean nothing, unless rich or connected. There are many more far important issues this government should be concerned/worried about than this crap. -- Got a V3 or a V3i or an L7? Want to get the most out of them? Check out my sites »hacktheV3.com and »hacktheV3i.com and »hacktheL7.com
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  texans20 Weapons of Masturbation Premium join:2002-09-28 Texas! clubs:
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The biggest changes I see are:
1. In the past most copyright issues have been handled via civil punishment and not criminal punishment. This makes downloading that new Gwen Stefani song a felony.
2. This law targets P2P and usenet search engines. It's now illegal to "aid and abet" copyright infringement or commit conspiracy to infringe on copyright. Hell, with as vague as the law is written, it could make usenet illegal.
3. This law makes it legal for federal law enforcement officers to obtain a "wiretap" for suspected copyright infringement.
Goodbye usenet and P2P search engines based in America if this passes.
It's almost weekly something happens that makes me want to disown this country and move away. I agree with protecting copyright, but treating everyone like a felon is not what this country is about. |
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said by expert007 I'm just waiting for the first reply that says "If you're not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about".[/BQUOTE :How about "If you're not doing anything illegal, you have a lot to worry about." The government is going to far in helping private businesses and criminalizing everything. It would not be a far stretch for the government to be able lock up anyone because some obscure law was violated. Homeland security should not be involved in such issues as DMCA and music downloads. None of these are threat to any security involving the homeland. Spread the homeland security resources too thin and you really weaken the defenses against very real and significant threats. It would appear to me that Gonzales has just benefited from a donation by the RIAA and MPAA. He has been purchased. |
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join:2004-01-22 united state | reply to expert007 If your not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about. But seriously, I dont get the Homeland Security tie in, that just makes no sense. |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
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2. This law targets P2P and usenet search engines. It's now illegal to "aid and abet" copyright infringement or commit conspiracy to infringe on copyright. Hell, with as vague as the law is written, it could make usenet illegal. -------------------------------------------------- might as well shut down the interweb  -- Fossils, Not Gospels. |
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You are the most disgusting excuse of a human being I have ever seen. Please resign now; you have no business trying to propose laws when your credibility is next to nothing, and when the only person that supports you is your long time friend Bush, perhaps your only one at this time.
Hiding in a basement for two weeks won't be enough next time. You will only delay the inevitable. |
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said by GilbertMark :People mean nothing, unless rich or connected. That has been the same all over the world from the beginning of organized governments and probably even before that. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page |
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said by texans20 :"This makes downloading that new Gwen Stefani song a felony." That should already be a felony, -- "There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots" |
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join:2003-07-20 Greer, SC | Police state on the way
If this keeps up the homeland security will be the new SS |
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join:2006-02-24 Saint Charles, MO | can no one stand in their way
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  richardpor Fur it up
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said by GilbertMark :This country so needs a revolution. All that matters in this nation is the corporation and how it can become more profitable. People mean nothing, unless rich or connected. There are many more far important issues this government should be concerned/worried about than this crap. Repeal the 13th amendment of the constitution. Then we can bring back slavery. That is what you want is it. You force others to provide you what you want free. I do not care about you because you will not make the effort to provide for yourself. |
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  richardpor Fur it up
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Perhaps DSL Report should read the press release and the proposed law. This is very sloppy journalism to rely of bias and sloppy second had information. All the law will do is harmonizing music fraud and counterfeiting, AKA piracy of songs, to existing counterfeiting and copyright laws. Frankly, the person running a server serving thousands of pirate copies of songs should not be treated or prosecuted any differently than the smuggler moving and other form of counterfeit goods. As for the mentioned Department of Homeland Security, there only one mention in the entire act to quote:
"(4) Notification of importation.- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall issue regulations by which any performer may, upon payment of a specified fee, be entitled to notification by United States Customs and Border Protection of the importation of copies or phonorecords that appear to consist of unauthorized fixations of the sounds or sounds and images of a live musical performance.
All it has to do is about is the discovery of importation and notification concerning counterfeit copies by the Customs department. |
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  Happyrat Google Is Your Best Friend Premium join:2002-07-01 Disneyland
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»news.com.com/8301-10784_3-971933···l?tag=tb
quote: * Create a new crime of life imprisonment for using pirated software. Anyone using counterfeit products who "recklessly causes or attempts to cause death" can be imprisoned for life. During a conference call, Justice Department officials gave the example of a hospital using pirated software instead of paying for it.
God I miss the good old days when the Americans were our friends and the Soviets were the bad guys.
King George seems bent on imprisoning every 12 yr old in America for life 
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1 edit | Going after fake drugs also
Even though focus by Karl is on internet aspect , the law is written to go after much more than just media content.
"Strengthening Penalties for Counterfeiting Offenses that Threaten Public Health and Safety
Some counterfeit goods create serious risks to public health and safety. For example, a counterfeit pharmaceutical may be ineffective or harmful, or a substandard electrical cord bearing a counterfeit UL certification mark may pose a fire hazard. Such threats to health and safety are among the principal factors considered in deciding whether to prosecute intellectual property cases criminally, and the Department's Task Force on Intellectual Property has identified these types of cases as being a prosecution priority. To better reflect the seriousness of IP offenses that pose health and safety dangers and to provide greater deterrence against such crimes, it is appropriate to provide increased penalties for counterfeiters who deal in dangerous products. Accordingly, section 12(a)(l)-(2) provides enhanced maximum statutory penalties for counterfeiting offenses that endanger public health and safety.
The proposal increases the maximum penalties for offenses from 10 to 20 years imprisonment where the defendant knowingly or recklessly causes or attempts to cause serious bodily injury, and increases the maximum penalty to life imprisonment where the defendant knowingly or recklessly causes or attempts to cause death. Both the mens rea standard ("knowingly" or "recklessly") and the level of enhanced penalties are consistent with other existing federal criminal statutes that provide enhanced penalties for offenses resulting in serious injury or death."
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  ColorBASIC 8-bit Fun Premium join:2006-12-29 Corona, CA | RIAA is the criminal element here
Gonzo should worry more about RIAA racketeering and collusion that 13 year olds downloading Happy Birthday. |
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