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kudos:2 |  Re: Great work Karl!
said by ColorBASIC:Know you have been working on this for a while. Lots of good info. . . I have to agree. | |
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1 edit | Forgot to mention the $12-$15 that companies like Comcast charge for not having TV. $12-$15 more AND they give you a slower speed. | |
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2 edits | Re: Great work Karl! Yep, that's the "How dare you not have our crappy CATV?!?" fee. When I had ATTBi which didn't have the fee, I saw a 30% price increase when Comcast took over because of the fee. When Time Warner took over, their "penalty" is $5 on top of the service being cheaper (and no monthly usage caps enforced). Comcast fanboys would say it's a bundling discount, but the penalty doesn't work the other way. You don't get a CATV penalty when you don't have HSI.
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Dracut, MA | Re: Great work Karl! Why is it shocking that a cable company has a discount on services other then cable when you subscribe to cable. I am sorry but it IS a bundle discount. Phone and CHSI? discounted CHSI, cable and CHSI? discounted CHSI. I guess by the reasoning you provide that it is a "penalty" that when you don't buy things on sale at a store you are paying a "penalty" for not waiting for a sale. | |
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join:2001-09-10
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2 edits | Re: Great work Karl! The issue I have is this....
This story shows the FULL NON-BUNDLED price for something like Verizon FIOS, but then a note at the bottom about the discount.
For Comcast, it shows the Discounted BUNDLE rate in the main list without mention of the non-bundle price anywhere.
For example... I just called Comcast.
$57.95 for 4Mbps service without TV
$42.95 for 6Mpbs service with TV.
Comcrap is not only charging $15 more, but giving less! Thank God FIOS came in just before Comcast took over Adelphia here (who didn't charge more for non-TV customers - they stopped doing it)
The list here for Comcast should have listed $57.95 as the price of the service with a note about the $15 discount for bundling - just as they (dslreports) did for the FIOS. | |
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join:2006-12-29
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2 edits | No one here ever saw their prices drop. Those with HSI and no CATV like me saw our rates skyrocket 30%. Those with HSI and CATV saw their HSI rate stay exactly the same. There was no discount, EVER. The ONLY change to anyone's bill was a price increase for those HSI subs without CATV.
Sorry but an avoidance of an increase isn't a discount no matter how Comcast apologists try and phrase it.
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Dracut, MA | Re: Great work Karl! no YOU saw an increase in your area due to pricing going from Adelphia's pricing to comcasts pricing. I didnt see anything except a decrease as it has always run that way with billing. Comparing pricing from one company to another isnt exactly an accurate representation of the facts. | |
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3 edits | Re: Great work Karl! ATTBi's pricing. MediaOne - ATTB - Comcast - Time Warner.
Comcast instituted the penalty 6 months after taking over from ATTB. That's 6 months before suddenly and with no notice taking a 30% increase. The only direction the bills went was up. No one saw any discount, only increases or no changes.
Avoiding a price increase is not discount no matter how you or Brian Roberts want to spin it.
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I remember years ago when Comcast first started the bundle "discount". I was a DTV customer for TV, and paying roughly $40 for HSI and a Modem rental from Comcast.
Then, Comcast decided to offer this bundle "discount" as you call it.
Only problem with the "discount" was that the people with Comcast TV just got to keep on paying the same rate, but the people without Comcast TV got to pay $5 (I think that's what it was at the time) more for service.
In other words when the "discounts" as you call them went into effect, nobody saw their bills drop. How then is it a discount? | |
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Corona, CA | Re: Great work Karl! In our area Comcast's out of nowhere penalty was $14.00. I just opened my bill and one month and it jumped from $42.95 to $56.95. Additionally I was passed over for many of the speed increases Comcast had. Comcast really socked it to you on many fronts if you didn't want their crappy CATV service.
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kudos:2 | said by mglunt:Forgot to mention the $12-$15 that companies like Comcast charge for not having TV. $12-$15 more AND they give you a slower speed. I believe this was covered in the article. One list of prices is for HSI only and the other list clearly states the prices if you have other services
As with most providers, bundling two services (Comcast Cable TV or Comcast Digital Phone) can net you savings:
# Economy: 384kbps/384kbps : $29.95 (not available for new subscription)
# Performance: 6Mbps/384kbps : $42.95
# Performance: 6Mbps/768kbps : $42.95 (select areas)
# Performance Plus: 8Mbps/768kbps : $52.95
# Blast!: 16Mbps/1Mbps : $52.95 (select areas)
# Blast!: 16Mbps/2Mbps : $52.95 (select areas) | |
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Fredericksburg, VA | Re: Great work Karl!
No, it wasn't.
Comcast HSI is almost $60 a month for their slowest non "economy" plan. The $42.95 price is if you have their TV. | |
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1 edit | Re: Great work Karl! said by mglunt:No, it wasn't. Comcast HSI is almost $60 a month for their slowest non "economy" plan. The $42.95 price is if you have their TV. Again, from the article: The first list WITHOUT VIDEO OR CDV
# Economy: 384 kbps/384 kbps : $39.95 (not advertised)
# Performance Lite: 4Mbps/384 kbps : $42.95
# Performance: 6Mbps/384kbps-768kbps : $59.95
# Performance Plus: 8Mbps/768 kbps : $67.95
# Blast!: 16Mbps/1Mbps : $67.95 (select areas)
# Blast!: 16000 kbps / 2000 kbps : $67.95 (select areas) Karl didn't mention "fee" because I think he was counting on the reader to be able to add/subtract to compare the difference between the two lists. | |
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1 edit | Re: Great work Karl! Well then his pricing is off a bit.
$57.95 is what I would pay for HSI only and I would receive 4Mbps. | |
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Olympia, WA Reviews:
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| Yeah! That's why I went with Basic Basic Cable (not the same basic as the $40+ package - but a hold over from TCI and ATTBI) for $15.00 a month, which "basically" comes out to free cable since I'd have to pay $59 anyway if I didn't have cable! Before that, we didn't have TV reception. I'm not sure if were better off now, because I probably watch too much TV, though my kids really don't watch that much anyway. I'm reasonably satisfied with Comcast, but have considered getting the Performance Plus package 8Mbps/768kbps for $52.95! I've been putting that off.
Having said that, I sure wish that Verizon FiOS was available here! I mean 15Mbps/2Mbps for $49.95? That's got to be the best in the US, for the buck. Unfortunately it doesn't come anywhere close to some other countries like Korea and Japan who reportedly have 100 megabits. That's another story however.
I do want to say that I really appreciate Karl's excellent work on this.
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
2 edits | Re: Great work Karl! It's $50 for 15/2 only if you sign a 1 year contract. Otherwise they charge a big install fee an an $8 per month "How dare you not want to get locked into a Verizon contract?!?" penalty.
In my service area, TWC's non-contract price is a few bucks cheaper than FiOS' non-contract for the same 15/2 service.
As for 100Mb services, Cogent supplies 1Gb services to MUDs here though availability is limited. We just get to hear about the "best" available elsewhere leaving some with the impression that US BB sucks when nothing could be farther from the truth.
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Olympia, WA Reviews:
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| Re: Great work Karl! said by ColorBASIC:It's $50 for 15/2 only if you sign a 1 year contract. Otherwise they charge a big install fee an an $8 per month "How dare you not want to get locked into a Verizon contract?!?" penalty. Let me tell you, I'd sign a one year contract to get the 15/2 in a heart beat! That's way better than I can get out here, and the only real competition to Comcast is Qwest, and their offerings are not even as good as what I got.
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Netcong, NJ
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| said by ColorBASIC:It's $50 for 15/2 only if you sign a 1 year contract. Otherwise they charge a big install fee an an $8 per month "How dare you not want to get locked into a Verizon contract?!?" penalty. I grow weary shovelling crap against the tide. I can see the light though and all will be right with America's network once again. Can you say, do you want fries with that? Sure you can. | |
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
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| said by damox:Having said that, I sure wish that Verizon FiOS was available here! I mean 15Mbps/2Mbps for $49.95? That's got to be the best in the US, for the buck. Unfortunately it doesn't come anywhere close to some other countries like Korea and Japan who reportedly have 100 megabits. That's another story however. How many times will this false statement be repeated. That 100 meg is only available to multi unit dwellings not individuals. | |
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UK | said by batterup:How many times will this false statement be repeated. That 100 meg is only available to multi unit dwellings not individuals. Not true. | |
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
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| Re: Great work Karl! said by Ignite:said by batterup:How many times will this false statement be repeated. That 100 meg is only available to multi unit dwellings not individuals. Not true. Source? | |
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Lake Hiawatha, NJ | OOL ? Cablevision? | |
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kudos:1 | Re: OOL ? Cablevision is only available in one, small region. | |
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| RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | "Down the road we'll offer comparisons with some of the smaller providers (OOL, Covad) "
Reading is fundamental.
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Great research though. Thanks for putting it together. | |
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Corona, CA | Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling He noted that VZ does naked DSL in some areas for $5 more. | |
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I ordered it for her about 9 months ago, so I should know the price.
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1 edit | Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling No interstate subscriber line charge? Here that is $6 on top of the $10 basic POTS line. Plus USF, plus 9-1-1 and a few other smaller fees. Here the cheapest Verizon line is about $20 after all the fees and taxes.
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New York, NY | Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling said by ColorBASIC:No interstate subscriber line charge? Here that is $6 on top of the $10 basic POTS line. Plus USF, plus 9-1-1 and a few other smaller fees. Here the cheapest Verizon line is about $20 after all the fees and taxes. That sounds like a bargain to me. Here its over $40 for basic dial tone! Of course I (grudgingly) have a POTS line in addition to my VoIP line, but some markets (like mine) are a total rip off.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling said by wifi4milez:said by ColorBASIC:No interstate subscriber line charge? Here that is $6 on top of the $10 basic POTS line. Plus USF, plus 9-1-1 and a few other smaller fees. Here the cheapest Verizon line is about $20 after all the fees and taxes. That sounds like a bargain to me. Here its over $40 for basic dial tone! Of course I (grudgingly) have a POTS line in addition to my VoIP line, but some markets (like mine) are a total rip off. In New Jersey my 1FR service totals $18.37 a month. It is not the cheapest plan, there are two less expensive but I only know what mine costs. Verizon gets $14.95 and those that slop at the public trough get $3.43 nearly %20 tax.
Flat Rate Service $8.45
Federal Subscriber Line Charge $6.50
Federal Universal Service Fee $0.76
Federal excise tax $0.23
State tax $0.63
E911 tax $1.80
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New York, NY | Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling said by batterup:said by wifi4milez:said by ColorBASIC:No interstate subscriber line charge? Here that is $6 on top of the $10 basic POTS line. Plus USF, plus 9-1-1 and a few other smaller fees. Here the cheapest Verizon line is about $20 after all the fees and taxes. That sounds like a bargain to me. Here its over $40 for basic dial tone! Of course I (grudgingly) have a POTS line in addition to my VoIP line, but some markets (like mine) are a total rip off. In New Jersey my 1FR service totals $18.37 a month. It is not the cheapest plan, there are two less expensive but I only know what mine costs. Verizon gets $14.95 and those that slop at the public trough get $3.43 nearly %20 tax. Flat Rate Service $8.45 Federal Subscriber Line Charge $6.50 Federal Universal Service Fee $0.76 Federal excise tax $0.23 State tax $0.63 E911 tax $1.80 Total of $18.37 WOW thats cheap. Maybe I should consider moving to NJ! 
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| Re: $15 dsl with forced bundling said by wifi4milez:WOW thats cheap. Maybe I should consider moving to NJ! If people would look at their bill they will see most of what makes POST expensive they don't need or have to get. POTS is not bundled. As I stated I have 1FR service, the most expensive POTS in one of the most expensive states. | |
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| | | Not entirely true. With ATT you no longer have to sign up for 3 features on your calling plan plus long distance. I have Express DSL with no long distance, I use my cell phone, and just a phone line. | |
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Not entirely true. With ATT you no longer have to sign up for 3 features on your calling plan plus long distance. I have Express DSL with no long distance, I use my cell phone, and just a phone line.
You are the exception. One of the provisions of the merger between SBC and BellSouth was that they had to start offering "naked dsl" which is dsl without a phone line. They never did. 2 years later in January 07 one of the provisions to allow AT&T and SBC to merge was that they were required to offer naked dsl...yet again.
Your the first person I've heard of who has gotten it. Here's some posts from people wanting it and not being able to get it:
»groups.google.com/group/dfw.inte···176958/#
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All DSL speeds are "up to" best effort...
I don't think that applies to DSL speeds only, like that statement sort of suggests, but applies to cable as well. | |
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kelso
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Ashburn, VA | Rate Difference Currently in Ashburn Va, the Comcast Economy Tier is 24.95 bundled not 29.95 listed in the article. | |
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | Great Job Karl! Great Job Karl! 
*I* have Standard Cable TV and HSI from Comcast.
I pay the Extra $10.00 per month for speed.
Comcast HSI with *ANY* TV service is $42.95 per month.
+ $10.00 per month for speed makes it $52.95 per month.
Modem rental adds $3.00 per month(I own my modem).
My speeds are rated at 8000kbps/768kbps.
Actual speeds are 8600kbps/724kbps.
PowerBoost is not accounted for in this post because it doesn't last, and it only affects the first part of large downloads and uploads.
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| | | Re: Great Job Karl! I second that! Excellent work. | |
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| |  lilhurricaneCrunchin' For CuresPremium,Mod
join:2003-01-11
Purple Zone
kudos:51 | Re: Great Job Karl! Nice compilation..thank you!  | |
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| | Great Idea Thanks Carl... this is something I would love to see updated every month! Great idea.
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Marion, IA | Mediacom Great article Karl! Thumbs up!
Mediacom prices vary by market. These are my prices.
Standard 8Mbps/512kbps : $44.95-$54.95
VIP(triple play) 10Mbps/1Mbps : $44.95-$54.95
OnlineMax: 15Mbps/1Mbps : $59.95-$69.95
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| | | Re: Mediacom Mediacom also has a "light"/"economy" tier that does not appear to be advertised or for new customers, much like Comcast's economy tier listed. | |
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| | Dry vs. Land-Line DSL Cost Comparers Might Have Forgot....
"A nickel here, a dime there" |
I have the absolutely least expensive non-subsidized landline that will qualify me for DSL...
It's quoted monthly charges are $5.70/month
BUT WAIT!
As documented above, "taxes", et.al., bloat the actual amount I fork over for it each month to more than double that amount -- $11.82
Anyone have a "Dry" connection from their telco out there? How much the below is tacked on to your $6 or $10.00 you pay each month.. "I showed you mine, now you show me yours!"
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|  PacketeersPremium
join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Dry vs. Land-Line DSL Cost Comparers Might Have Forgot.... nobody calls it "naked" DSL,
it's called a "dry loop" DSL.
Verizon does 3mbit for $40/mo
and you can then port your old
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| | | | Re: Dry vs. Land-Line DSL Cost Comparers Might Have Forgot.... How did you manage to get $3.00 for long distance? In one year, mine started out at $11.00 and went up to $22.00. And beginning with the may/april bill, AT$T added a line delivery charge of almost $2.00. AT&T is adding all kinds of charges to the bill. My total bill - local, long distance, internet plus all those taxes and fees - comes to $76.00 a month.
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myosh:
OK, I don't have a dry line but here's what my June bill will look like...
Residential Flat Rate Service $10.83Surcharges (incl USF) 5.61Gov't Taxes & Fees 1.30AT&T Long Distance 3.00Long Distance Fees/Taxes 1.42 Phone Total: $22.16 DSL Pro Pkg (3000/512) $24.99 TOTAL BILL: $47.15 | |
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1 edit | USA has lost the speed war! Compare speed and price from other countries and the US looks sad.  | |
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| | | Re: USA has lost the speed war! I begin to think the word war should be banned from the Queens English for obfuscation and rhetoric. Tell good fellow where is congress declaration of war over broadband speed. Where are your armies marching to conquer Japan because they have faster speeds? It is utterly ridiculous to cal this war. | |
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: USA has lost the speed war! Agreed - especially since nobody's really (at a corp level anyways) in it to have the highest speed if they don't have to. Competition between cable and telco (VZ FiOS anyways) has led to this. Also, 'there's no such thing as a free lunch', they'll find ways to recoup the cost in the end.
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| | | said by ARGONAUT:Compare speed and price from other countries and the US looks sad. Why is that? Take a look at speedtest.net - we are actually doing pretty good, speedwise. | |
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| ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Couldn't care less. | |
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| | "naked dsl" I have a dry loop from VZ. No phone anything, just 1.5/384 DSL. It's 29.99/month + $10 for not having POTS. That's it. $2/month discount for 1yr contract. 36.99/month is my total. Same price for 3mb/768. Verizon's database just says i'm way too far from the CO. (which is wrong) | |
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emptywigHuh? What?Premium
join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX | But What About Extra Fees and Charges? While I appreciate the time and effort taken to compile this list, I am disappointed that it omits the single biggest annoyance that comes with trying to analyze what BB is going to cost you, and that is the extra fees, taxes, and mandatory extra charges (modem rental, etc.) that are tacked on. While interesting, I don't find it particularly useful.
What I would like to see an extra section that gives us a yearly cost for service, one lump sum that represents what the broadband ACTUALLY COSTS YOU each year. That would be truly useful.
Good start, though.
wig
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| Re: But What About Extra Fees and Charges? Fees vary so drastically by provider, state and city that I figured it should be a different article entirely. There's also the touchy debate over whether many of these are legitimate fees or rate hikes disguised as below the line itemized charges that I didn't want derailing this report.... | |
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join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX | Re: But What About Extra Fees and Charges? Fair enough on the fees varying, but you could ask for people to send in their bills and do an average. That's be good enough, I think.
As far as the touchy debate - if its on the bill each month it doesn't matter whether people think its a surreptitious rate increase or a fee, what it IS is a charge that must be paid.
Its like gas prices. It doesn't matter to the consumer that x-percent of the price is the cost of oil, and y-percent of the price is the cost of refining, etc. All that matters to the person buying the gas is that its $3.08/gal. (or whatever)
Present it exactly like the companies present it on the bill- retail price, plus everything else below the line and tot it all up. All the rest is politics.
Cheers,
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Mount Joy, PA | Distance is key Posted this as per Karl's suggestion.
I had Verizon dsl for years. I now have Comcast. Since I was slightly over 11,000 line feet from my Central Office, I was only able to get 1.5Mbps/384kbps for the same $29.99 price as the ones closer to the CO getting 3Mbps/768kpbs. Comparing say Comcast HSI for $42.95(with tv) 6Mbps/384kb versus 1.5Mbps/384kbps with Verizon dsl, $13 may not seem that bad for a bonus 5.5Mbps+(and Powerboost). Just wanted to note that $29.99* with Verizon dsl should include an asterisk meaning within distance. 
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Waterbury, CT | Thanks Karl.. I know that was a lot of work for you and it's appreciated.
I find it interesting that both Cox and TW choose to offer competitively priced lower tiers, while Comcast refuses to.
Cox's in particular is compelling and very much in line with what the telco's offer.
"Economy: 768kbps/256kbps : $14.95-$16.99 (select areas)
Value: 1.5Mbps/256kbps-384kbps : $26.95-$29.95"
Comcast does offer the 384k tier in some areas but at almost 30.00, it's hardly worth it.
I do think they could do well if they were to change their strategy a bit and start offering what COX does.
For those with cable tv already, it would let them cancel their pots line in favor of VOIP. Perhaps their concern is that they would cannibalize customers from the 42.95 tier but I really don't think it would be all that many.
Those people probably already are DSL customers anyway.
Anyways..interesting to see the comparisons.
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|  furloniumComputer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
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Bethlehem, PA | Re: Thanks Karl.. Awesome read, good work.
Is RCN not as big a player, since it's not listed? | |
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| | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Thanks Karl.. Who ? | |
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| | | furloniumComputer Over? Virus equals Very Yes?
join:2002-05-08
Bethlehem, PA | Re: Thanks Karl.. said by RFG78 :
This is just for residential, I hope you people don't use these services for business purposes.
Is downloading a ton of porn considered a business purpose? I can think of a lot of people who would like to think it is.
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I once had a dream that Sean Connery stayed at my apt., and he had his laptop with Win98 on it, and he knew how to connect to my wireless network. I don't do drugs | |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ | 50Mbps/5Mbps for me?? How many DVDs from Holland is that? | |
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| | | cable internet price reasoning The reason that cable carriers charge more for cable internet subscribers who don't have cable t.v. than they do for those subscribers with cable t.v. and internet is that they can't split the signal (meaning that if you buy cable internet you get cable t.v. with it {not intentionally} they don't want you to know that). They could split the signal if they wanted to but it would include adding a filter onto the lines at each house that just has cable internet. To reiterate the higher price for the non-bundle is their way of getting money out of you for a service you get without knowing about it in case you decide to split that cable line to your t.v. and modem. Please keep this on the down-low though, don't go blasting it all over the internet lol. | |
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| bohn
join:2006-05-30
Scarborough, ON | Re: 50Mbps/5Mbps for me?? In Canada it wouldn't even amount to one. We have caps on everything and if you go over you could lose your house. | |
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| |  take these for prices
all are in USD and are per month, Telcom and ISP fee respectively
- one time payment USD 80 setup cost
- 256kbps, USD 27+37=64
- 512kbps, USD 32+62=94
- 1mb, USD 40+120=160
nice huh | |
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| | | Re: take these for prices "1mb, USD 40+120=160"
Ouch! $160 a month for 1mbps sounds really, really expensive.
How much is a gallon of gas there? | |
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