brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | WOW
Kaboom! Hope you got FIOS insurance. lol |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Non legals
This is what happens when you subcontract the work out. You never know who they have on board. They're usually guys who would work for pennies and never did finish grade school.
Same with the new tracks homes being built. The craftsmanship is just not there anymore. |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | following in the steps of comcast
... those pesky contractors |
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robertfl
Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL
 ·Cox VOIP
| They should be bonded and insured
Just as my subject said they should be bonded and insured for shit like this. Clearly, this is pure stupidity. Our society is dumbing down and we will see more bull crap like this. Now to error is to be human but this should have been prevented by PLANNING ahead.
Rob |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| said by robertfl  :Just as my subject said they should be bonded and insured for shit like this.
No doubt they are, no one would hire a contractor who wasn't.
said by robertfl :Now to error is to be human but this should have been prevented by PLANNING ahead. Rob How does planning ahead help when the pipes aren't where they're shown on the plat? |
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Lil Jon
Premium
join:2006-06-26
Lawrenceville, GA | lol @ everyone hatin on Verizon. it isn't even their fault. |
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Chaoswar
Premium
join:2002-09-23
Northlake IL | reply to RJ44
Maybe they could get a ground scan done before they excavate? I can't imagine that being more expensive than fixing the damage afterwards.... Or loss of life re: house fires... |
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AMDUSER
Premium
join:2003-05-28
Earth
clubs: | Generally they have the utility marking service come out and mark where the gas, electric etc is located.
..However, it would not be too surprising if it was not marked due to old outdated maps. |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI | Well I don't know about you...
but if I spent $23 billion on anything, I'd expect AT LEAST one good explosion! 
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | No kidding. Jim Cameron needs to be put in charge. He can blow up way more crap and do it for about $100-$200M. |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | No surprise they mention FL...
Cable lines, phone lines, anything that can be cut down there does. Every month I would have a long term ISP outage due to something being dug up. |
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Arctic nut
join:2006-11-26
Thief River Falls, MN
 ·HughesNet Satellit..
·Alltel Axess
| reply to Chaoswar
Re: They should be bonded and insured
said by Chaoswar :Maybe they could get a ground scan done before they excavate? I can't imagine that being more expensive than fixing the damage afterwards.... Or loss of life re: house fires... They likely do get underground utilities located. In most places it's the law. The problem can be the locating crews who don't always do an accurate job of marking the correct location. I have first hand knowledge of what happens when things are not marked correctly. I still have the backhoe bucket with the 8" hole in it from hitting a 12.5KV cable that was 60 feet from where it was marked as being. While the power company was sorry, it took countless letters and the filing of a suit to get reimbursed for replacement of my fried bucket and a backhoe check over. Had I not followed the law and dug blind, I would have been liable for replacement of the cable and lost revenue. The lost revenue alone would have been steep since I cut power to nearly 200 customers in August. Only a total idiot would not call for locates. Not to mention, the contractor's insurance would likely be cancelled in a flash for being so negligent. |
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MrMoody
Carbon Based Lifeform
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | Next
FiOS ate my baby!! |
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index1489
Premium
join:2004-03-12
Chino, CA
clubs:
1 edit | I just used the line today, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs and now I come here and read this haha |
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ShootToThril
Tell The Truth
Premium
join:2004-06-07
Sherman Oaks, CA
clubs: | The New ad for Verizon Fios
Verizon FIOS, It's so fast your house will burn down. Mobile home owners beware, you might just fly out to space. |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| reply to Chaoswar
Re: They should be bonded and insured
said by Chaoswar :Maybe they could get a ground scan done before they excavate? What, exactly, is a ground scan? |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
|  reply to ShootToThril
Re: The New ad for Verizon Fios
said by ShootToThril :Verizon FIOS, It's so fast your house will burn down. Mobile home owners beware, you might just fly out to space. Yeah, FIOS is damn hot!
-Tzale |
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
| Mexicans do good work
They had the Mexicans out around my neighborhood. They did a really good job given the complex nature of what they were doing. Most of it was hand dug work and as far as I know there haven't been any problems reported.
The work here was done a few weeks ago so hopefully it will be available soon. |
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Tursiops_G
Technoid
Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-06
Norwalk, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
| reply to RJ44
Re: They should be bonded and insured
said by Chaoswar :What, exactly, is a ground scan? Checking for the presence of buried utilities with ground-penetrating radar (more effective than using a plain Metal Detector) 
»www.geomodel.com/
-Tursiops_G.
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CableTool
Poorly Representing MYSELF.
Premium
join:2004-11-12
| Hilarious Double Standard.
I think its awesome that when its cable that does it by contractor they are evil and stupid and negligent.. However when the second coming that is VZ FIOS does it, more then anyone apparently, the article is peppered with "Hey, no biggie, it happens. "
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You can't make a $23 billion fiber optic omelet without breaking some eggs..
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usually dealing with inaccurate city maps..
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Sarasota County said the mistakes were getting better, but there were still issues. "To put the damage to sewer and water lines into perspective, excavation usually leads to about 10 cut sewer and water lines in a four-month period. Verizon has cut 19 times that many since Oct. 1,"[/quote[
Mistakes are getting better but they are 19x the norm? Thats better?
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While Verizon is doing a much better job -- especially considering the scale of the project -- there's still some mishaps occurring.
They are doing a better job considering the scale? What does that even mean? They are building out plant. Everyone does it, not everyone does it at 19x the damages.
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Sometimes decent bandwidth comes at a price.
Yeah, god bless em!
Haha, even the comments are forgiving and "Ah Well.." "Those pesky contractors!"
Im all for "shit happens" but next time cable comes into an unfortunate mishap, which most likely will include some of the same contractors, lets spread a little of that forgiveness gravy around. Or at the very least keep the reporting SLIGHTLY unbiased...
Always good for a laugh! Thanks all!!!
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