 b10010011Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA | It's the poor man's Tivo Why pay Tivo a monthly fee when you can just download that show you missed and watch it anytime.
Best part is most of the good uploadersr will remove all the commercials for you! | |
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 |  Lil JonPremium
join:2006-06-26
Cincinnati, OH | Re: It's the poor man's Tivo said by b10010011:Why pay Tivo a monthly fee when you can just download that show you missed and watch it anytime. Best part is most of the good uploadersr will remove all the commercials for you! yup!! I haven't watched TV ( a real one) in like 2 years, thanks to Bittorent  | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Lets see. poor quality, ads, crappy player versus gorgeous HD quality, ads ripped out, plays in media player at full screen.
theres only one show i use bt for because theres another program in the same time slot i like to watch.
oh yeah i've NEVER bought a product based on a ad i saw on T.V.
i wished theyd just go with product placement and do away with inturrupted style.
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| | Time4aNAPPremium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL | Re: It's the poor man's Tivo said by dvd536:...i've NEVER bought a product based on a ad i saw on T.V. I have, and based on my experience with the products, I wouldn't miss the ads one bit. Not that there aren't any good products being advertised. I'd have found the ones that I really needed (or really worked) by other means anyway. | |
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: It's the poor man's Tivo Seriously.. this report loses all creditbilty. Maybe it would be believable if it came in second.. but last? No way.. | |
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| | | | | Re: It's the poor man's Tivo I NEVER dl porn torrents, you can't preview it. I rather go to a gallery site and dl 1 min clips. those pages have a ridiculous amount of hits DAILY, & I mean by the millions. I dl TV shows, Movies, & Games as torrents not porn. I bet there's alot of people out there like me. | |
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|  ScreeIn the pipe 5 by 5
join:2001-04-24
Mount Laurel, NJ | w00t | |
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| | Dictatorship Criminalizing an action most people participate in is a borderline dictatorship. | |
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To what "action" are you referring? | |
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| | | | Re: Dictatorship Downloading songs and movies. Not selling bootleg DVDs on a street corner, but downloading a song to listen to on my way to work. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Who's "most people"? This is 50% of torrent users, not 50% of the US population. Until you have a large percentage of the population using BT, your statement has no merit. | |
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| | | | Re: Dictatorship nearly everyone at my school downloads their music off of p2p mostly limewire | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Dictatorship said by cheesy bob :
nearly everyone at my school Inconclusive and far from a majority. | |
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Derfel
join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB | Was going to... I was going to go and read this article, but I think I'll just download it later. | |
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| | | Re: Was going to... The future is P2P e-mail untraceable where everyone becomes a mail server and use false ip address | |
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| | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Was going to... That'll help SPAM... | |
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join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:1 | My wife.... ....has asked me on more than one occasion to download various episodes because she forgot to set a timer on the DVR, accidently deleted it, it ran over (beyond the add'l time already in the timer), and so on. | |
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|  banditws6Shrinking Time and DistancePremium
join:2001-08-18
Frisco, TX
 ·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | Similar situation... A couple years ago, I downloaded an episode of a TV show that was pre-empted by local sports on the night it aired. It was a crucial episode in a serial drama at the end of its season, and to miss an installment was to miss a critical part of the story. It was the first time I had downloaded an episode of a TV show.
I received my first and only DMCA letter as a result of downloading that episode.
Utter stupidity.
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| |  algPassionately apatheticPremium
join:2001-04-10
Houston, TX
kudos:3 | Re: Similar situation... That's pretty bad, I've been downloading every new episode of Lost, 24, Jericho, and occasionally an episode of something for my mom and never had any problems.
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join:2004-06-12
kudos:5 | Re: Similar situation... My girlfriend had me download a few episodes of Grey's Anatomy because the ABC server that streams the show online sucks (constant rebuffers) | |
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| | | mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | I use ShareTV.org for my TV and, according to them, almost no one gets DMCA letters from CBS, ABC, or Fox... but NBC and HBO do. Nothing legally troubling but just a letter to your ISP. I download Family Guy, The Daily Show, How I Met Your Mother, Grey's Anatomy (for the gf I swear), 30 Rock, and The Office without a DMCA yet (knock on wood). I'm exploring a few options regarding IP masking or VPN but so far nothing has worked 100%. | |
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join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA | yep
it's called "freevo" instead of tivo | |
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| 720p FTW Why pay for Cable or satellite when they still put commercials on ? Either get an antenna on your roof and catch some VSB/DVB-T broadcast or torrent it away.
Love those 720p 1.1GB episodes of Heroes Best quality evar!
Adi | |
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|  RyleP2P 4EVA
join:2005-03-09
Bellevue, WA | Re: 720p FTW hell yes!
720p Lost, Heroes, 24!! woot!
EZTV rocks | |
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| | | Not quite "Best Quality EVAR". Heroes is broadcast in 1080/60i telecined from 1080/24p. Run the 1080/60i MPEG-2 stream through a pull-up filter and you can see Heroes in glorious 1080/24p. That's "Best Quality EVAR".
It's going to take more than 1.1GB though... the 1080i broadcasts are about 7.5 GB though that includes the commercials. | |
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| Squidii
join:2004-06-30
Little Rock, AR Reviews:
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| said by adisor19:... some VSB/DVB-T broadcast or torrent it away. That's ATSC to us Americans, because if Europe does it one way, we by damn sure are going to do it different. | |
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| | | | Re: 720p FTW Err, yes, it's ATSC VSB (Vertical Side Banding) while Europe has the superior DVB-T.
Adi | |
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| | | | | Re: 720p FTW VSB is Vestigal Side Band, not Vertical Side Banding. | |
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Adi | |
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join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL | Good catch. | |
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| | | Time4aNAPPremium
join:2007-04-09
Des Plaines, IL
1 edit | said by adisor19:Err, yes, it's ATSC VSB (Vertical Side Banding) while Europe has the superior DVB-T. DVB-T stands for "Digital Video Broadcasting - Terrestrial". That's precisely what ATSC is. Which name is "superior" seems like absurd nit-picking to me.
ATSC in America and DVB-T in Europe both use MPEG2 encoding, so that's a moot issue.
The 8-VSB modulation scheme used by American TV broadcasters is not as robust as the OFDM scheme used by DVB-T broadcasters, everything else being equal. However 8-VSB can cover the same area using 1/10th the transmitter power, making it more energy efficient. Although ATSC stations could simply buy more powerful transmitters to help make up the difference, a revised "E-VSB" modulation scheme is being developed to help with fringe areas.
As an American, I'd prefer to buy a better antenna for my end, and have cleaner air. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | said by adisor19:Love those 720p 1.1GB episodes of Heroes Best quality evar! That's a key point. For a large portion of those TV watchers that care about quality, downloading high quality torrents is a good method to obtain the content. I watch most of my routine TV in this manner since my provider's HD offering is questionable, but I also continue to pay my overpriced CATV bill so I feel that the content providers don't lose out. | |
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| | | said by adisor19:Why pay for Cable or satellite when they still put commercials on ? Because your cable subscription isn't enough to pay the bills. Much of that money goes into the actual cable infrastructure. Your favorite shows still need a good deal more to stay on the air. Thus you still have commercials. | |
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| | | | Re: 720p FTW Because your cable subscription isn't enough to pay the bills. Much of that money goes into the actual cable infrastructurecable executive's pockets. There, fixed it for you. | |
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| | | | | Re: 720p FTW That's between you and your cable company. Not the shows you watch and the advertisements in between them. | |
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join:2005-02-24
canada | What? What? Porn is only 4th? I thought it was king of all internets. | |
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|  JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium
join:2002-12-24
Long Island
kudos:3
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| Re: What? said by JBear:What? Porn is only 4th? I thought it was king of all internets. I'm furious that porn came in 4th. Looks like I'll be going home later to fire up the drives to try and manipulate those statistics a bit.
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| |  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: What? Oh porno really is in first place they just don't want to admit it.  
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join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA | they failed to mention that 90% of the "tv shows" are from playboy | |
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| | Not surprised Dam networks wont put the shows on the net and if they do the quality sucks ass and so do the custom players they use. i ether torrent or go to some video site that has them. Give me Shows on the net or i will steal them. | |
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|  BootesPremium
join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY | Re: Not surprised ABC will be testing HD 720p shows on their site this summer. | |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service
| time for change In all seriousness, what is the freakin' problem w/people sharing a tv show??? I might understand if it were HBO shows or whatnot that "the man" gets upset about... but regular tv, even cable tv should be shareable...
What is the difference between someone doing this, or someone letting a friend borrow a VHS tape???
This absurdity of people getting sued over something so harmless has to stop at some point.
I don't even use BT, except for random game patches, or an occasional Linux distro. But I'll say this much: I will NEVER want to buy another tv show from iTunes, unless they up the quality AND lower the price.
Tried ONCE to get a Battlestar Galactica episode only to find that my $2 (WAAAAAAY OVERPRICED BTW!) resulted in a SLOWLY downloaded video file who's quality was WORSE than I could've possibly imagined. The show was utterly UNWATCHABLE on a 15" laptop display. There's something seriously wrong w/that IMO.
The idiots who keep spouting about how bad piracy is need to seriously change their tune. If ABC and others can offer watchable (and free I might add) online video, WHO CARES if someone else wants to trade??? Why not leave a torrent of their own out there, even if it DID have a couple commercials, that others can download and watch. I just about GUARANTEE it'd be at least a little bit popular for ordinary users to click, download, and start watching pretty soon. It'd also have some level of assurance that the quality would be good, and that it was "official" and not some chance you're taking on a virus etc.
To me, I guess someone trading a TV show just isn't all that evil in my mind. Sure, I understand bootlegging something that you should pay for is wrong, but a TV show to which you already probably subscribe to??? Give everyone a break here, that's preposterous. No different than letting your friend, brother, or neighbor borrow your VHS tape that you might have recorded a show with. Nothing different about it except that the 'net was used instead of your two feet. Get over it.
Surprising that those stats say more people trade ordinary TV shows than anything else.
A logical person might conclude then that MOST cases against 'evil' downloaders are preposterous and that the practice of suing your audience should stop. ...Somehow I doubt the troll(s) would agree. | |
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 IridiumPremium
join:2003-04-02
Los Angeles, CA
·DSL EXTREME
| I don't mind paying for TV shows But if I pay I expect them to be ad free, no motherfucking DRM and at least in 480p. And no more than $1. if the TV industry won't sell episodes then I will continue to use bt.
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| |  ShootToThrilTell The TruthPremium
join:2004-06-07
Sherman Oaks, CA
4 edits | Re: I don't mind paying for TV shows Why sit for hours and wait for Torrents to download. Go to:
»www.slyfoxtv.com
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»www.Stage6.com
And watch full feature movies or TV shows in DIVX format. Some are still only showing in the theaters. | |
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| | | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: I don't mind paying for TV shows said by ShootToThril:Why sit for hours and wait for Torrents to download. Go to: » www.slyfoxtv.comor » www.Stage6.comAnd watch full feature movies or TV shows in DIVX format. Some are still only showing in the theaters. maybe some people want better than youtube quality.
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| | | | ShootToThrilTell The TruthPremium
join:2004-06-07
Sherman Oaks, CA
1 edit | Re: I don't mind paying for TV shows this is much better than youtube... At least for movies, and if you don't mind me saying, Good quality i can get when it comes out on DVD. | |
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join:2001-07-01
Oviedo, FL | $1 per episode $1 per episode with no ads could average an extra $500.000 a week? not a bad deal at all
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join:2001-03-07
Baton Rouge, LA | No Captions Most (read: almost ALL) streaming vids from the net are worthless for HoH or deaf people; they are neither subtitled nor captioned. The quality usually sucks,too. | |
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join:2002-08-14
Sterling Heights, MI
1 edit | OnDemand If NBC, FOX and ABC would offer OnDemand channels I would not download the episodes I missed which is the fault of the Networks and the Shows fault in the first place for moving the shows around in the time slots and just show a few new episodes and then show 8 reruns finish out the season with new episodes that I even forget the show is on because I found something else to do. | |
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|  KoolMoeAw ManPremium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD | Re: OnDemand NBC and ABC do.
I don't watch much TV, but do get to keep up/catch up with LOST and Heros since they're online, and not bad quality or speed at all. Very pleased with it. No problem sitting through a few brief 30 second commercials.
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join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN
2 edits | wow I expected the pornography numbers to be higher with all the porn email. | |
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join:2001-12-12
Oklahoma City, OK
1 edit | wonder woops nm i see it now | |
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join:2002-10-21
Lagrange, GA | What? If I already pay for cable and want to download the show I missed, why is this illegal?
I propose a solution to the problem. ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, etc., should allow paying cable subscribers to setup an account to verify they actually are paying for cable, then allow the user to watch whatever show they want. Or setup their own bt client that only paying cable subscribers are allowed to use.
-my two cents | |
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| | | Re: What? I have to admit I do download tv shows... but it's usually because I miss them on tv. I'm not sure if it's stealing, but if i'm already paying for a television service it shouldn't really matter. | |
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|  RickNYPremium
join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
·Optimum Online
| said by CSU:If I already pay for cable and want to download the show I missed, why is this illegal? What does paying for cable have to do with anything? Those channels are broadcast over the air for free as well. | |
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1 edit | Cool study Very interesting study indeed.
I am a bit surprised though, I thought bittorrent was more commonly used for Anime than for TV Series. I personnaly use it only for animes. | |
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