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Comments on news posted 2007-05-18 12:11:05: Techdirt observes that some Democrats are pushing for provisions that would force ISPs to block users from being able to access Rogue pharmacies. ..

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en102
Canadian, eh?

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There goes on-line Canadian pharmacies for the US

Yeah right! I suspect the pharmaceutical companies have an interest in this... they want to shut off 'decent priced' Canadian online pharmacies.


pnh102
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I knew there was a catch to that re-definition of broadband discussed earlier So much for net neutrality!
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rradina

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Virtual vs. Physical

While it's common to ask business to enforce government policy, the Internet is virtual and blocking sites seems futile -- unless the government creates a comprehensive "good list" and everything not on the list is blocked. I can't imagine that this wouldn't violate something in the constitution but...

The other thing that bothers me is if the ISPs are asked to block content, what happens when something slips through the cracks and someone dies? Are they liable because they failed to protect the public?

Why don't we figure out why folks want to buy from "illegal" pharmacies and determine if there is a way to eliminate this desire rather than trying to block it?

This reminds me of a story I heard. There was a stretch of highway where everyone was speeding. Government tried everyting to enforce the limit but in the end, everyone still drove too fast. Then someone decided to paint the dashed lines on the highway closer together. Everyone drove slower because the lines made them feel like they were driving faster. I don't know if it's true but sometimes problems have to be solved cooperatively rather than by force.

niagara_man1

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ISPs as Internet Babysitters

First illegal drugs. And then wait till het RIAA gets into this and ISP's are to block all mp3 traffic


fcisler
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Would it not make more sense to block the INCOMING shipment of the drugs?

There are already hundreds of regulations on mail - and that is already overseen by unkle sam.

Leave my damn internet alone already!

SanJoseNerd
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The Blocking Never Ends

The real problem is that once you start blocking, inevitably the government will start blocking whatever is politically unpopular.

First they'll block rogue pharmacies. Then all porn. Then all sites that discuss abortion. Then sites that discuss illegal recreational drugs. Then sites that discuss terrorism. Then anything that might infringe someones copyright. Then ... you get the idea.


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said by niagara_man1 See Profile :

First illegal drugs. And then wait till het RIAA gets into this and ISP's are to block all mp3 traffic
TKJunkMail See Profile would support all mp3 traffic being blocked
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PolarBear
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Oh Crap

Great, now where am I supposed to get my Vicadin?


major marco
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said by rradina See Profile :

Why don't we figure out why folks want to buy from "illegal" pharmacies and determine if there is a way to eliminate this desire rather than trying to block it?
Because the "illegal pharmacy" thing is a complete myth. Big Pharma has a pecuniary interest in forcing Americans to buy significantly overpriced pharmaceuticals instead of allowing a choice to buy it from north of the border where the Canadian government collectively bargains for cheaper drug prices.

Americans pay the highest prescription drug prices on the planet not because the quality is so good, but because we are forced by Big Pharma to subsidize all the countries that collectively bargain for lower prices. This trickling down of the responsibility onto the heads of the ISPs to police online pharmacies is nothing more than an attempt initiated by bought and paid for politicians to throw up a smokescreen to disguise the intended purpose: to do the bidding for their Big Pharma masters. Standard Operating Procedure for the American federal government - Give it a warm & fuzzy, feel-good name to disguise the real intent. See also the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts.
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hmmm..;...

good grief, when is this $hit going to stop.....oh wait, when drug prices become reasonable and we aren't getting hosed and asked to bend over when we buy them...they should be spending their time getting/making them available at a fair price ( not pandering to the Pharm companies.Since the congress critters probably get theirs free at our expense). This is one item a lot of people have no choice in if they want to live. We can't choose to shop around or not buy...yes it's ok to make a profit, but....JMT
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USA, Inc.

Just another example of how the US is being run by corporations. Obviously money has been thrown at the politicians responsible for pushing this, and I'm sure they have clever ways of disguising these "contributions".

bi0tech

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Re: The Blocking Never Ends

Welcome to the good ole' Chin-US of A


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said by major marco See Profile :

Standard Operating Procedure for the American federal government - Give it a warm & fuzzy, feel-good name to disguise the real intent. See also the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts.
But what about the children? Think about the children!

Besides, terrorists are who really benefit from illegal pharmacies.
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said by PolarBear See Profile :

Great, now where am I supposed to get my Vicadin?
What's Vicadin?
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major marco
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said by nixen See Profile :

[...]terrorists are who really benefit from illegal pharmacies.
Actually, the "illegal" pharmacies ARE the terrarists.
I hear Canada will be the next country that will be invaded for selling Americans prescription pharmaceuticals on the web. We have to be "protected" from cheaper drugs, dont'cha know.
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said by major marco See Profile :

said by nixen See Profile :

[...]terrorists are who really benefit from illegal pharmacies.
Actually, the "illegal" pharmacies ARE the terrarists.
I hear Canada will be the next country that will be invaded for selling Americans prescription pharmaceuticals on the web. We have to be "protected" from cheaper drugs, dont'cha know.
Oh well. At least when that happens, won't to make too deep of an incursion. For some odd reason, most of them `nuck-critters are all bunched up at the border with the US.
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Since Congress is all into amnesty for illegals

How about a cheap drug amnesty plan? These drugs just want a better life in America. Undocumented drugs make an important contribution to society!


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Re: Oh Crap

said by nixen See Profile :

What's Vicadin?
A really groovy narcotic painkiller. . .

Think I'm gonna order some Viagra and Cymbalta, take both before bed and see what happens.


brandon
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I think the bigger problem here...

Is that this particular movement is coming from Democrats, but GWB and most Republicans are against the Canadian/online pharmacy things too.

Which means that both sides of the government are on the same side, and it's the wrong side.


calvoiper

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Re: Oh Crap

...I think he meant "vicodin", but was in a hydrocodone-induced haze and just missed the spelling....

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