ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
| How will they pay for it?
Torrent traffic is paid by the people doing it. How will this YouTube clone work? People still hosting it themselves and just finding each other via VideoBay? If so the MPAA racketeers will simply go after them. If it's hosted by VideoBay how will they pay for all that traffic. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Cool, but...
Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully 
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qualityc0ntrol
@pacbell.net | hrmm....
interesting ... might be easier for people to just watch shows on the video bay rather than download them off of torrents |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: How will they pay for it?
said by ColorBASIC  :Torrent traffic is paid by the people doing it. How will this YouTube clone work? People still hosting it themselves and just finding each other via VideoBay? If so the MPAA racketeers will simply go after them. If it's hosted by VideoBay how will they pay for all that traffic. They are making money hand over fist with the amount of traffic they get , those ads they have generate big bucks for them. And the more they skirt the law and the local **AA brings it to the news the bigger the take for them.
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Interesting Variety read from a while back:
»www.variety.com/article/VR111795···=18&cs=1 |
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Logan 5
Some people go WAY over the top
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join:2001-05-25
The WasteLAN
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| reply to en102
Re: Cool, but...
said by en102 :Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully How so?
If it's not hosted in the US, then US Copyright law is not enforceable abroad in most cases unless there are already specific treaties and trade agreements in place.
Look at allofmp3.com out of Russia. The ONLY way that site will fall is if Russia's desire to become a part of the WTO or EU or whatever outweighs the grey area of Russian Copyright law.
It will be ultimately up to Sweden and their versions of the MAPP & RIAA if the *.bays (Pirate & Video) will ultimately succeed or fail, not the US, but not for lack of trying on our part...  |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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said by en102 :Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully I hope not. They are scum and deserve to be in prison.
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Logan 5
Some people go WAY over the top
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join:2001-05-25
The WasteLAN
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by TKJunkMail :I hope not. They are scum and deserve to be in prison. Well, many have tried, but SO FAR no one has succeeded, but not from any lack of trying... |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | Great
must have the p0rn |
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pbaldwin
join:2002-12-17
Dupo, IL |  reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Cool, but...
Not knowing why you make this statement, and as I understand it they are doing everything legal in THEIR country, why do you say this? |
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thongsai
join:2002-07-04
Santa Rosa, CA | different than hosting torrents
i think the reason they won with the torrent thing was that they werent hosting the copyrighted material.. if their new site becomes a youtube, then they do host the files and must remove em for copyright reasons.. correct me if im wrong. |
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Omega
Displaced Ohioan
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join:2002-07-30
Cheyenne, WY
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Cool, but...
said by TKJunkMail :said by en102 :Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully I hope not. They are scum and deserve to be in prison. Why? They aren't violating any laws. |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY
| for those of you..
who say pirating is evil and blah, probrably are the same people who said homosexuality was a mental disorder back when that was the popular belief, or when people thought blacks didnt have a soul and were only good for slavery, or when the earth was said to be flat... Too many people go with the majority. |
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AlkalineArmy
Premium
join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN
| Multiple Hosting Points?
People are forgetting that even if it does get taken down in Sweden, they'll probably have alternative hosting in other countries whose copyright laws are even looser than Sweden's. This is what they did with Pirate Bay, so it'd be safe to assume they would do the same with the Video Bay. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to thongsai
Re: different than hosting torrents
said by thongsai :i think the reason they won with the torrent thing was that they werent hosting the copyrighted material.. if their new site becomes a youtube, then they do host the files and must remove em for copyright reasons.. correct me if im wrong. I'm thinking a web embedded player that will buffer and play torrents maybe.
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fsfsd
@comcast.net
| reply to AlkalineArmy
Re: Multiple Hosting Points?
As long as its a country that is not in the world trade organization and never plans on being in, then they can probably get away with it. Otherwise the WTO will block them out or keep fining them, similiar to what happens to china, and still happens today. But china was kept out of the WTO for many years. Their economy is going nuts now that they are in though, those of us holding chinese stocks know what I'm talking about  |
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Jehu
Premium
join:2002-09-13
MA | reply to zipjay
Re: for those of you..
omg..seek help... |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to dadkins
Re: different than hosting torrents
said by dadkins :said by thongsai :i think the reason they won with the torrent thing was that they werent hosting the copyrighted material.. if their new site becomes a youtube, then they do host the files and must remove em for copyright reasons.. correct me if im wrong. I'm thinking a web embedded player that will buffer and play torrents maybe. That would be unusable to those on isp's that throttle/shape certain types of packets.
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BPLSUCKS
join:2006-04-26
Grand Ledge, MI | Who forgot?
Their DNS host is in sweeden...I.E their address...the physical server location is not in sweeden...just their office s and host...the actual servers are on that island I believe. |
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AlkalineArmy
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join:2002-03-14
Greenfield, IN | Well, their servers are currently relocated to the Netherlands with backups planned (possibly implemented?) in Belgium, Russia, and possibly more in the future. |
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