DHRacer
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1 edit | DTV picture is terrible
I've had two dishes professionally installed, and two receivers swapped out, and still my DTV is a pixelated mess and the receiver randomly reboots.
I'm going to try cable myself in June. I'm tired of DTV's claims that they are better. Of course, they may actually be better, but right now I'm bugged enough to switch.
And I'm real tired, as a DTV customer, of hearing about what's coming soon. It's been coming soon for like 2+ years now and still not any better. I hear they are putting another satellite up in August for service in September, but maybe I'll give cable a few months to prove their worth, and go back to DTV in September/October if cable really is worse.
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TKJunkMail
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|  DirecTV will never win this type of lawsuit
As long as the study was actually done and not completely fraudulent, DirecTV doesn't have a chance of winning. All this really is about is DirecTV using the filed lawsuit as a marketing mechanism in their ads disputing Comcast's claim.
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | Gee
Cable sued Sat now Sat is suing Cable. Who pays over a stupid ad? The consumer in a higher price eventually.
How about:
Consumers suing both for NOT providing a decent picture? |
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supergirl
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Re: DirecTV will never win this type of lawsuit
said by TKJunkMail  :As long as the study was actually done and not completely fraudulent, DirecTV doesn't have a chance of winning. All this really is about is DirecTV using the filed lawsuit as a marketing mechanism in their ads disputing Comcast's claim. If the suit has no merit then let the Judge fine the sh*t out of DTV lawyers and DTV. These ridiculous nuisance suits just tie up the court system. |
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ptrowski
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Re: DTV picture is terrible
said by DHRacer :I've had two dishes professionally installed, and two receivers swapped out, and still my DTV is a pixelated mess and the receiver randomly reboots. I'm going to try cable myself in June. I'm tired of DTV's claims that they are better. Of course, they may actually be better, but right now I'm bugged enough to switch. And I'm real tired, as a DTV customer, of hearing about what's coming soon. It's been coming soon for like 2+ years now and still not any better. I hear they are putting another satellite up in August for service in September, but maybe I'll give cable a few months to prove their worth, and go back to DTV in September/October if cable really is worse. ETA: 7 years on this board and this is the first time Im the first post... Just had to say that! Get ready for the exact same thing on cable. It's not different on this side of the fence. Funny I am about to try DTV.
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rantou
join:2002-06-04
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| IMHO Cable wins over DTV... Dish wins too.
I tend to believe that based on what I saw, putting the two side-by-side and viewing them, the cable in my area (Time Warner) does exceed DirecTV by a long-shot on HDTV content. The picture on DTV just looked rancid compared to what cable was putting out. I went over to my boss's house where he uses Dish, didn't put it side-by-side, and on the content we viewed, it was nowhere near as pixelated as DTV was.
I am sure a lot of it also has to do with the hardware that's being used too, but if that's the case, DTV needs to look into other options for HDTV before they go any further with new channels.
If HDTV doesn't look good, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong. |
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Rick
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| Well, I guess direct tv can kick and scream
and sue..but in reading the survey it sounds like Comcast took pains to insure it was done fairly.
Personally, I've seen hd on both satellite and cable and would have to agree that Cable's look better.
Obviously though, it's going to vary based on ones connection and provider.
Satellite does seem to provide a better overall value though when it comes to their tv packages.
Comcasts really need to come down IMHO.
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en102
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Re: DTV picture is terrible
I've been using DTv for about 3 years now with no issue in Los Angeles area, but I also don't use HD.
I picked them over Comcast , as 3 tuners on DTV was $55 including taxes, etc, while Comcast digital STARTED at $60.10 + fees and taxes. TimeWarner took over Comcast here, and prices are now down to $45/month + fees/taxes for 1 tuner ($7.99 for each extra), so it is more comparable.
I'm waiting for my contract with DSL-X to be up to weigh my options.
DTV (3 tuners on + package) now = $61/month
DSLX 3008/512 = $26.80 / month
AT&T (unlimited) = $45/month + $12 taxes / fees
= 132.80 + $12 taxes/fees
TW = $45 + $7.99 + $7.99
TW phone = $39.99 ($5 discount bundle)
TW HSI = $34.99
= 135.96 + taxes / fees
They're close in price... if I was on 6008/512 on DSLX, they would be even closer. |
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pwn2009
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| better HD image????
I thought HD programming is direct from the source, providers, sat or cable are just "rebroadcasting" the signal they get from FOX or NBC for example? Shouldn't the quality be exact same? Isn't 1080 lines 1080 lines, how is one better than the other? |
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Lumberjack
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| Hmm
First, the study would just be a count of opinions. Its doubtful that the firm doing the study is going to lie about what people say. In fact had it been reversed Comcast would have not published it vs. lie about it.
Second, I've heard that DTV does compress down to a lower quality. So technically it's possible that DTV is lower simply because it has a smaller pixel count and dithering/stretching.
Third, a lot of the picture quality goes into the equipment. I remember when I had Cox digital cable it looked nice and crisp (STV vs HDTV) and then I added a TiVo and bam easy to spot pixels blocks because MPEG-2 compression. Had the study been done with a crappy HD box or the TiVo version for DTV and best of line for cable then that might have merit for a suit. Even my older TiVo HD-DVR from DTV was pixel-ed like that. The new one seems to be a little better and HD looks great on my TV.
It's neat watching them fight over this. I wish they'd just hurry up and bring what they yap about to the table so the mass market can make a decision vs studies, random opinions, etc...
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njcellfreak
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| LMAO!!! this is the best news I heard all day!
DTV suing Comcast??? BOO HOOOO HOOO WAAAA WAAAAAAAAAA. Well if DTV would get off their collective a$$es and stop using this HD-Lite B.S. then maybe they wouldn't have this problem!! The suit has no merit and if anything, people should be suing DTV for their false advertising of HD when it's really HD-Lite. Now theres a lawsuit that does have merit.
You don't sue another company due to their competitive practices. It's called competition. DTV has to learn that we wont settle for HD-Lite and their overly compressed SD channels. F*CK YOU DTV. STOP USING HD-LITE!!!!!!!! STOP OVERLY COMPRESSING YOUR CHANNELS!!! SD looks like $hit too. QUALITY NOT QUANTITY! I hope the judge laughs the case out of court. This is a hoot! |
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| If you can, Get an Antenna!
If you are within the 40 or so mile radius of a transmission tower try a set of rabbit ears and an amp. Remember the higher the better. It is amazing how good the picture is. However, when the weather turns bad, as recently here in Houston, the signal goes bad for a bit and then recovers.
If you don't live close enough then I would be interested to see what is the best. My brother in law has Direct TV with HD and his picture is not that bad but it is a CRT type HDTV about 38 inches in size. It appears that his TV processes out some of the noise. To really see something a 50+ inches of LCD would be useful. I know that in bad weather the cable will go out for a while (no connection to TVs but use RoadRunner). Interesting thing is that Houston is now Comcast instead of TW. I wonder if things will improve, degrade or remain the same. |
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embj
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Re: better HD image????
The cable/satellite companies compress it, so it doesn't look as good as what is being broadcast. The best HDTV picture is what you can get over-the-air with an antenna. It's simply amazing about the difference. The sound/picture quality from Time Warner down here is pretty good, but the quality you get from an antenna is better. The picture seems so much sharper. |
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LoftyDan
join:2002-10-22
Victoria, BC | reply to pwn2009
The only company that does that, that I'm aware of, is Verizon with FiOS TV. Other companies, including cable down sample the source to fit the available bandwidth. |
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fiberguy
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| The new future..
Business needs to keep their marketing out of the court system. This is where it goes too far.
Time Warner sues DTV, DTV wants to sue Comcast... what's next? Comcast sues Dish because Dish claims they have the most HD even though comcast says most of it sucks?
I think the people should sue big business for abuse to the system.
The mere fact that DTV wants to sue someone over a "survey" that was "allegedly" conducted opens up yet another whole new breed of sue crazy corporations. IF this goes to court, and IF this has a judgment in favor of InDirectTV, then ANYONE that conducts a survey of their own should watch out.. because if the person or entity who is not favored doesn't like the outcome, they'll just sue.
I've said this in MANY posts in the past.. society today has TOTALLY lost it's mind. Unless and until things change, society will continue to head in that same spiraling direction right down the poop shoot.
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BIG DISH IS STILL KING.
DOES anyone know why they died out? Too much hassle to move the dish? Local regulations on big dish users? |
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JeepMatt
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Wilmington, DE | reply to No to ESPN
Re: If you can, Get an Antenna!
Verizon should run this ad - because after witnessing all 3 sources - FIOS TV's HD picture is the best of all of them. Hands down.
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Re: Well, I guess direct tv can kick and scream
said by Rick :and sue..but in reading the survey it sounds like Comcast took pains to insure it was done fairly. Where did you get a copy of the survey to "read"?
The sticking point is their qualification of "65.60% of those who expressed a preference". That could be any number, even as low as 10%. Meaning that 90% really don't give a shit.
Since the actual survey has not been released, nobody knows what those percentages represent.
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Zerny
join:2007-05-04
Fort Gratiot, MI | Honestly
I think as a business you shouldnt be able to publish anything with your competition's name on it. Stick to your product, instead of bashing other peoples. |
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