korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs: | OpenDNS all over?
Looks like they're taking cues from OpenDNS. I wonder if they'll offer phishing services as well. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
 ·Cox VOIP
·Skype
 ·Cox HSI
 ·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
1 edit | I drop them over that and the rip-off
Cox here (Gulf Coast) added "permaboost" which really just makes you look like you are getting what you are paying for. I got a solid 12/1 connection before it. After it was 8/1 with downloads at 10 down. So, I was paying for 12/1 and getting 2/3rds the speed.
Surfing brought a lot of those Cox pages, full of frickin ads, if the URL didn't resolved fast enough. BellSouth hasn't that problem and I'm saving $25 a month over Cox.
I also never saw 1 mbps up mostly 500 up.
If you call and threaten to go DSL, they will drop your price in half for 2 months. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | Also, I noticed Yahoo IM didn't work a lot. It would all of the sudden lose connection.
They were definitely throttling YouTube.
Cox also had a search function on their page.
Cox used to allow it to go to google. |
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the niTz
Premium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ | atleast
they give u the option to bypass it with out using 3rd party servers |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to supergirl
Re: I drop them over that and the rip-off
Then call every 2 months and use other DNS servers unless you have a good alternative available. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
| Lame but unavoidable, all ISPs are whores
All the complaints in the world isn't going to change the ISP trend of taking advantage of their customers to make a buck every chance they get.
While lame at least they're providing unaffected servers from day one. I remember when DSL Extreme pulled this crap and their customers blew their stacks. Of course later offering unaffected servers did little to shut them up.
There is ZERO benefit that will go to the customers. Cox will simply pocket the money because like all ISPs they're greedy whores. It's one thing to simply charge for the monthly service, it's quite another to take advantage of leech off customers mistakes to the detriment of the domain name system.
The ONLY thing that will stop this is customers cancelling. So who will be the first Cox customer to cancel over this? Any takers? |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
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Re: I drop them over that and the rip-off
said by ColorBASIC  :Then call every 2 months and use other DNS servers unless you have a good alternative available. Use your own PC based DNS service. I use treewalk to handle my DNS needs. It has worked without any problems for the last year. »www.ntcanuck.com/
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | As far as DNS goes, it's one the of few things Verizon does right. |
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GlennAllen
join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
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TreeWalk is great; I've been using it for quite a few years. Simply installing it, however, won't help someone much with this kind of stuff. TreeWalk will simply cache your successful lookups so that if/when your regular DNS server availability becomes "problematic", you'll still be able to find the sites you've visited before. New lookups will still go out to the next level DNS (the default being whatever you were using when you installed TreeWalk), and, as you'd expect, unsuccessful lookups--which is what you'd have here--won't be cached. Now, you could both install TreeWalk and point it to a higher level--or "real"--DNS to bypass DNS "redirection" sites and to avoid other non-spec DNS problems.
I don't know... does it really matter? If they're redirecting only browser requests, probably not. If they're screwing up non-browser requests, then probably so.
Either way, using something like TreeWalk is usually a good idea.
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SimbaTLK1
Rawrrr
join:2001-09-07
Bethel Park, PA
clubs:
1 edit | Interesting...
All the complaints about Cox this and Cox that, while only halfway down the page in yesterday's news: »'A Cable Company People Don't Hate' Perhaps Cox isn't as loved as they want to believe.
--Matt |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | i switched to opendns some time ago so i don't know how their new dns is.
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| Oh hell now...
Come on Cox, your network guys always seem to have prided themselves in trying to maintain a standards compliant network and now you go and pull a Verisign ? Nice job on listening to the bone headed idiot from with a BUSINESS school IT degree who knows jack about the network and just for a LITTLE bit more revenue.
I just HOPE they don't start foisting this stuff on the CBS customers. THAT would royally piss some folks off.
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Lame but unavoidable, all ISPs are whores
Am I missing something here? I know it's a little annoying to be redirected after mistyping a URL, but as often as not you end up at a link farm anyways even without the redirect.
Unless it's causing actual problems aside from the minor annoyance of being redirected instead of a 404 error, I don't understand the outrage. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Wow! And you work for one of the major ISPs?
Maybe people like using their own default search engines which open up on a 404.
Maybe people like to have less spam and for their filters to work correctly and fail.
There are a number of 'technical' reasons why this is a horrible idea and why it's CONSTANTLY under scrutiny when ever any greedy company does this... It's not the job of an ISP to redirect traffic ANYWHERE other than where the user has intended OR mis-intended.
But seriously, I certainly am not surprised someone in your position wouldn't get it.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: I drop them over that and the rip-off
said by TKJunkMail :said by ColorBASIC :Then call every 2 months and use other DNS servers unless you have a good alternative available. Use your own PC based DNS service. I use treewalk to handle my DNS needs. It has worked without any problems for the last year. » www.ntcanuck.com/ All of which assumes a provider never decides to do a transparent proxy of port 53. One of them will eventually try that.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| reply to dynodb
Re: Lame but unavoidable, all ISPs are whores
said by dynodb :Am I missing something here? I know it's a little annoying to be redirected after mistyping a URL, but as often as not you end up at a link farm anyways even without the redirect. Unless it's causing actual problems aside from the minor annoyance of being redirected instead of a 404 error, I don't understand the outrage. For most home users, it doesn't cause a problem. Where it causes real heartburn is if they do it to business subscribers. Outside of that, it's mostly a "principles" thing.
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to fiberguy
Oh no! I was redirected to an ISP page instead of a 404 error! The humanity! Now I'll have to look at an ISP page instead of a 404 screen for the 5 seconds it takes to retype the URL! The horror! 
I can see how it would minor annoyance in the rare occasion that you mistype a URL, but the "OMG GREEDY EVIL ISP BASTARDS!" outrage seems disproportionate over what seems to me to be a pretty minor issue- especially when there are painless ways around it.
I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole thing; the complaints seem not to revolve around any technical problems caused, but by the fact that their using this to make a few extra bucks.
And just exactly how does this affect spam filters? |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | reply to nixen
Well, since no one surfs the web while at work, it shouldn't be a problem  |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| said by dynodb :Well, since no one surfs the web while at work, it shouldn't be a problem Has nothing to do with that. Has to do with the problems it can cause for infrastructure systems.
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zerog
join:2002-02-10
Dallas, TX
1 edit | reply to nixen
Re: I drop them over that and the rip-off
it will likely come with the "save the children" package of internet restriction tools designed to filter out porn and meds sites...
btw.. Transparent DNS redirection will most certainly break LOTS of stuff... |
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