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Comments on news posted 2007-05-21 12:26:48: The Washington Post has more (we mentioned this earlier this month) on exclusive broadband development deals that lock homeowners into one broadband provider. ..

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nklb
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75 years is a LONG time

I would be upset. As someone who doesn't use cable tv (or satellite or any tv for that matter) I would NOT be happy having to pay for it.

The internet, on the other hand, is nice. But as with anything, competition is best, and 75 years is an AWFULLY long time.
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satellite68

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If they can't uphold their end...

through good, reliable service, then the contracts should be null and void.

jp10558
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Homeowner's Associations lower the value of a house IMO

Personally, the more I hear about Homeowners associations, the more I plan on staying away from any such thing. I would think this will start to hurt property valuse as people like me start deciding not to live where there is such crap.


major marco
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El Grande Stupido

I want to know who the dumbass at the HOA was who thought that locking residents into an unproven, untested technology like FTTH for 75 years was a good idea.


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Yuck.

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And to top it off they have bandwidth caps! Bleh!


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reply to major marco
Re: El Grande Stupido

It's typically the builders who bring these things on. They sign a contract with a provider, and the provider invests in putting in the infrastructure at no cost the builder.

The builder creates the first deed restrictions that include these types of deals.
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moonpuppy

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reply to major marco
The same one who got a sweet kickback and free service for life.

As for service, someone better look at the contract and see if they can cancel it because of service not being provided.

chemaupr

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Re: Homeowner's Associations lower the value of a house IMO

I agree, but It's harder to find a house or TH in an area with out a HOA. At least in the NOVA area. If you like the area and the place you basically do not have much of a choice.

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Didn't these people read the contract?

I know buying a house is a long process involving a lot of paper work. But sheese, didn't anyone bother to ask what broadband or cable providers service the area?

I know that was one of the things I looked into before we bought our home.

As for HOA's forget it. These things always turn into a busy-body ran spy club. Because the only people that volunteer to be on the HOA board and go to the meetings are people with WAY too much time on their hands...


ColorBASIC
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Same thing in Orange County with Cox

I mentioned this previously but Ladera Ranch in Orange County has a similar deal with Cox. Anyone wanting to live there has to pay high association dues to cover the cost of Cox HSI. If you want DSL or another provider, you still end up paying for Cox HSI.

The only argument in defense is the buyers about it before they bought in.
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expert007

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75 Years?????

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You gotta be kidding me. Dumbass...dumbass...dumbass decision. 75 years ago this was high tech air transportation.

phaqu

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Well....

why did they move to a subdivision with a fanatical homeowners asc.? All it is is a bunch of board,nosey housewives.Why anyone would want to live in a neighborhood with a lawn Nazi association is beyond me.


NPGMBR

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reply to nklb
Re: 75 years is a LONG time

Seventy five years is damd long.


nklb
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Re: Yuck.

Heh I wonder what they would do if you exceeded them? Terminate you? So you could then go to another provider?

*fires up bittorrent*
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 Two questions

I have two questions:

1) Did not the buyers know about this before they bought their houses? Any HOA covenants or requirements should be explicitly disclosed before a sale or mortgage is closed.

2) Who controls the homeowners' association? It should be the homeowners. If they, as a group, don't like it, why don't they, as a group, do something about it?

Tim
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reply to phaqu
Re: Well....

The purpose is to not have to live next to a trailer trash person who leaves more sh** outside than in his garage or have to live actually next to a trailer. They had good intentions during the 70s and 80s, they have become corrupt like any other organization to pay a "friend" to plow the public areas.

The really sad thing is these organizations can place a lean on your home for not paying. As someone said above, dumb, dumb, dumb to ever agree to something like this. If I had to live in that development, I would of made sure my lawyer had time to read over the contract to see if I could sign out of it prior to buying.


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[...] someone better look at the contract and see if they can cancel it because of service not being provided.
Assuming the homeowners in question did not agree to a clause in the HOA CC&Rs that pre-empts litigation in favor of binding arbitration (as most of them do) I'm sure this will result in a breach of contract suit eventually.
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reply to satellite68
Re: If they can't uphold their end...

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through good, reliable service, then the contracts should be null and void.
There are only two ways around these types of restrictions. A state law prohibiting exclusive contracts like this in the law regarding home owners associations or PUDs(Planned Unit Developments). Or a Congressional law like the one that made most deed restrictions invalid where sat dishes were concerned. Getting a state law changed would be more likely to be passed. But in either case, it is unlikely action is a priority for the legislatures. Especially because these people signed the deed knowing of the rule.
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reply to nklb
Re: Yuck.

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Heh I wonder what they would do if you exceeded them? Terminate you?
No. They would just kill your connection until the start of the next month.


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Re: Homeowner's Associations lower the value of a house IMO

Agreed. I got lucky with the town house I purchased last week. No HOA of any kind...
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