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Comments on news posted 2007-05-25 09:48:16: Research in Motion Ltd. is a bit delayed in its development of devices that have both cellular and Wi-Fi capabilities, but they’re trying to catch up; before the end of the year, they should be selling a BlackBerry with the converged technology. ..

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Noah Vail
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All they need is to....

keep a 3G router in their car and their ready to go.

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nklb
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Sounds nice

I really like my blackberry 7290, but I wouldn't want a newer blackberry as they no longer have a "transflective" display. So if I want to see the screen on a newer unit, I have to use the backlight. Even though wifi support would be VERY tempting.

I love the feature of my older model where if there is light around me the screen is easy to see!
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verolom

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Overhyped!

Yeah, Wi-Fi is overhyped, Crackberries are not!!!

Why can't we have it all? Why is mediocre for the sake of cost always OK? Life is too short to compromise on gadgets.


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Re: Sounds nice

I have been a BB user since the 8700, and now have an 8800.

What's the problem with the backlight? The 7290 needed a backlight in any dark situation because you couldn't see anything on the screen without it.

On the 8700/8800 the backlight is automatically illuminated depending upon the ambient light in the room/area your in. As soon as you tap any key, the entire screen (and keyboard in low light) will illuminate. There is no seperate backlight key like your using now. It's far more pretty too!
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fcisler
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Why won't BlackBerry die yet?

People still like BlackBerry's?

Uggghhh....

I realize that some run windows mobile now - but I wouldn't even want one of them (hate the design). A blackberry with their own OS? Hell no....I'd refuse to use it for free!

Their email service/implementation royally SUCKS.

JSRoman
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said by fcisler See Profile :

People still like BlackBerry's?

Uggghhh....

I realize that some run windows mobile now - but I wouldn't even want one of them (hate the design). A blackberry with their own OS? Hell no....I'd refuse to use it for free!

Their email service/implementation royally SUCKS.
You will be struck down by Blackberry Gods for speaking such blasphemy. How dare you? Have you no shame? Crackberry users unite!

The 8700 is the best phone I have ever had. IMO, once you go Blackberry you don't go back.
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nklb
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Re: Sounds nice

said by SterlingJ85 See Profile :

What's the problem with the backlight?
Battery life. I can go over 3 days without a charge by minimal use of the backlight. It's nice having the OPTION of a backlight, but it being required to see the screen is silly when RIM has demonstrated a product without this flaw.
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fcisler
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Re: Why won't BlackBerry die yet?

Well....i was looking for a bit more informed argument...but i'll bite:

That phone looks absolutely disgusting....too wide and short, and i believe i've seen it before - isn't it like an inch thick?

Really...what's the fascination with blackberry?

Have you ever tried a windows smartphone?

I've tried blackberry (we have a 7100i here on a full nextel plan) and i don't like it. I'm not alone - no one in my office wants to use the damn thing.

First....to tether it to a laptop we have to use some half assed kludge, with software on the laptop and use a proxy server to use any data service.

At that - it's slow as hell.

My blackjack has a single program to run (on the phone, which i can close after i click "ok" and still use the phone), and after that I can use BT DUN or a USB cable, and i'm online.

We have had nothing but problems with our blackberry mail "bridge" - whereas with Exchange and windows mobile - it "just works".

I'm usually far from someone to prefer the microsoft solution over the alternatives - but in this case - after i saw my contacts instantly synced between my email address and phone, and vise-versa - within 10 seconds - I was hooked.


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reply to nklb
Re: Sounds nice

I can easily go 3 days without recharging my 8800. In fact, i've gotten 5-6 days once without a recharge!

And i'm an IT Director, it doesn't sit idle!
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JSRoman
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Re: Why won't BlackBerry die yet?

An inch think? I think you have it confused with this- »www.bcellphones.com/images/brickphone.jpg

I'm sure the windows smartphones are good products but I guess it depends on who you ask since most of my friends pointed me towards BB over Windows Smart phones. In my case I like the feel of the 8700 over the 7100 style and 7290. 7290 is very wide and hard to crasp unless you have hands like King Kong. The 7100 style is thick and too tall IMO. I guess it depends what you like.

Can't comment on tethering since I've never had to use that feature and it cost a ton thru Cingular.Syncing is relatively quick with pc.

The Blackjack is also very good but when it came out I had already purchased 8700.
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fcisler
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Ton through cingular?

It's not widely publicized, but they can't tell weather your using the data on the phone or tethered. The plans also aren't very well publicized, but there's a way to get cheap data. I pay $15/mo for unlimited data plan AND 200 text messages. My monthly bill is under $100.

»na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/de···ications
1.95cm = 0.8in

no 3G. And all for just $200 from cingular?!?! No thanks.

soccerguy

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I love my Pearl BB. And I sometimes use it tethered (on the advice of a TMobile tech support rep when I was having difficulty with their laptop card). It works great, is speedy, and the size of a regular cell phone. And unlimited data for $20/month whether through the phone or laptop.

I've never had email or content problems on the BB system, which I administer for our firm. Every BB device has worked flawlessly, from the clunky BlueBerries to my new Pearl.

Some will like BB; others will like Windows Mobile. To each their own.

stufried
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Wifi Blackberry: In't Roaming and Tethering

Wifi on a mobile phone is a good way to fill in coverage gaps and reduce roaming costs. I had an international Blackberry plan. Last year when I was in Lebanon on business, I had no coverage. When I was in Tyre Lebanon, I actually walked out on a dock and and pointed my Blackberry at Israel to download my messages. Finding a hotspot (no pun intended) in Lebanon would have been much easier.

Also, the wifi tunnel opens up the possibility of using data enabled prepaid SIM cards in the phone in a pinch.

While I agree that phone companies can't tell whether you tether your phone via BES, the data usage can give you away. When I was sitting in a seminar the other day, I tethered rather than paying over priced wifi rates. During the course of the two day seminar, we went through 200 megs of data. It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to know this wasn't through wap browsing.


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reply to SterlingJ85
Re: Sounds nice

Can I throw my 7510 battery results in here as well?

About 24-36 hours for me.


ReVeLaTeD
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reply to fcisler
Re: Why won't BlackBerry die yet?

The problem with Windows Mobile phones is that you have to configure them like you would a PC. If that's the case I'd just use VoIP and my mini laptop.

BlackBerry - at least the Pearl does the set up so clean and efficient that you forget that you had to do anything at all. They have a dedicated function for setting up push email REGARDLESS of whether you're using Exchange, BIS, or just a personal POP3 account. That was the beauty of it.

I've got both the MDA and a Dash, and they both suck in comparison. The keypads are cramped on both, I'm constantly having to reboot them due to all these programs that don't like to close on their own without me babysitting Task Manager, and the "push" email is inconsistent. Sometimes it only works when I'm near my Wi-Fi, sometimes it always works, sometimes it doesn't work period. Plus I was forced to use Mail2Web, because it requires an Exchange account for the push. Well guess what? Personal email doesn't HAVE Exchange, it's either POP3 or IMAP.

So when I see Blackberry easily supporting POP3 email pushing, plus it's fast, efficient, great on battery use and uptime, and the word recognition is frighteningly accurate, then I look at my Dash and I'm spending more time fixing and configuring it than actually using it, I can't help but favor Blackberry. Fully intend to get that newer one on T-mo.

PS, most people who hate BlackBerry are thinking of the old style BB's - your 7200 and 7500 series. Trust me - it's evolved tremendously. Wi-Fi will only further emphasize its superiority in terms of productivity.

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Re: Wifi Blackberry: In't Roaming and Tethering

This article is referring to the Blackberry Pearl 8120 that should be coming out in a few months. In addition to the new WiFi feature, it will also have GPS and a 2mp camera. (an upgrade over the current 1.3mp version) The size of the Pearl 8120 will remain unchanged. However, expect some new colors to be offered.


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What are the advantages of the BB over my treo 700w 0r a (755p)
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