ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Follow the money
Hold those hiring the spamers responsible for the spam and it would stop tomorrow. |
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woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
 ·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| hmmmm,,,,,,
It doesn't bother me, but it is a big waste of resources, and my feeling is we end up "paying" for it in our isp charges etc. If it wasn't such a money maker, it would have gone the way of the dinosaur....and I feel the ISP's could make it go away if they really wanted to JMT
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GlennAllen
join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
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| Which is why spammer says,
"Can spam? yes, I can, yes, I can-can!"
Way to go Congress... another worthless law. And Pew's research stinks (sorry, had to say it)--the very concept of SPAM bothers me as much as ever. Personally, I've seen more of it in the past month or two than I have in all of the previous year. So, kudos to all involved...not.
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iEvolution
join:2006-06-24
Ogden, UT | Spam wouldn't be a issue of it didn't have customers
Well you can thank the idiots that click the links or sign up for spam related email..because if it weren't making any business spamming people there wouldn't be any. |
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LordMalak
join:2003-07-02
Brazil | Finally we're seeing the light!
Geez, why did it take soooooooooo long for people to realize that "Delete" is all it takes to get rid of spam?? Honestly, I don't get a lot of spam (I used to, though), but it really isn't the apocalypse that most geeks made out to be. |
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tpac_man
join:2007-02-27
Riverbank, CA | reply to iEvolution
Re: Spam wouldn't be a issue of it didn't have customers
I must have clicked on it by accident.. I swear! |
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TamaraB
Question The Current Paradigm
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join:2000-11-08
Brooklyn NYC
·Verizon Online DSL
| Duhhhhhh I get NO SPAM!
For true! I have been on the "Internet" since it was the ARPANET; with the same email address rrichard@blythe.org. I get NO SPAM at all! I get all my real email, I get everything sent to me by "real" people; but I get absolutely no spam!
This is no magic, it's a simple technology available to anyone with a minor technological ability to manage their own computer system; I believe this is the case for almost everyone posting/reading this thread.
There is no excuse for anyone reading this, to be receiving SPAM. None!
Blocking/eliminating all spam is practically FREE, easy, and a no-brainer.
If you all want a brief introduction as to HOW, write me at the address above.
Bob
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techjoe
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join:2004-02-20
Schererville, IN
| Take off the rose tinted glasses...
I maintain a couple of Barracuda spam filters, along with some smaller (aka less than 1000 user) spamassassin/etc handrolled setups, and have had the "pleasure" of evaluating near every offering under the sun at one time or another, and spam IS a problem. Users aren't too bothered, because either their ISP or work's IT dept does their job. At my day job we spend at least $3000/year fighting spam, after much steeper initial buyin of course. We drop at least 250,000 spam mails every day before it even gets into the same rack as the exchange servers. In fact, only about ~2% of all incoming mail is actually ever delivered. We have a totally raw unfiltered pipe of course, so the ISP is not doing anything to the mail before it hits the filters.
Point of the matter is, I don't think the average user today even knows how much spam they would get if not for filters. Filtering is not free, and if you think it is you really need to learn some things. Administration overhead, software maint, hardware maint, redundancy, bandwidth, etc all add up quickly.
"Back in the day" when every email addressed to you hit your mailbox the average Joe decided that spam was a Bad Thing.
Now that most of that spam is dropped by your host in one way or another it's not a problem to Joe Average.
Sorry, but I think this article even existing describes the sad state of the current computing affairs in itself.
I wonder how many of the folks surveyed would have also answered that popups don't bother them (I like to punch the monkey).... 
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
 ·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| reply to LordMalak
Re: Finally we're seeing the light!
said by LordMalak  :Geez, why did it take soooooooooo long for people to realize that "Delete" is all it takes to get rid of spam?? Honestly, I don't get a lot of spam (I used to, though), but it really isn't the apocalypse that most geeks made out to be. If it weren't for my filters, I'd get 3K+ spams in my inbox each and every day.
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
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join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL
 ·magicjack.com
·Cox HSI
·Insight Communicat..
·AT&T Midwest
1 edit | reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Follow the money
Pass a law stating that no ISP can provide service to spammers. That way as soon as a spammer is discovered his ISP can instantly disconnect him, if they are not spamming then the user can call up and explain how they are not a spammer and why they need to send millions of emails.
Also, impose heavy fines for ISP that do not disconnect spammers after their IPs are reported.
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Problem is a lot of the spammers are out of the country. |
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rejeck
@execulink.com
| Skewed Survey
If you think about it, the survey is probably skewed right from the start. The very people that are annoyed by SPAM likely wouldn't participate in a survey as the very methods by which they'd contact people for it would be some form of SPAM (actual SPAM by email, telemarketing, door to door, junk mail, street harassment). By it's very concept, a survey on whether spam is annoying is only going to be answered by those that don't mind it. |
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r81984
Fair and Balanced
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join:2001-11-14
St John'S, NL
·magicjack.com
·Cox HSI
·Insight Communicat..
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Follow the money
If spammers are out of the country then why can't American ISPs allow an option for American customers to block all non American email address/ip's for email traffic.
I never recieve legit email from outside the US, and I am sure most American's never do either.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Dont get spam!
*NO* email gets downloaded to my computers... so even *IF* spam were to get to my inbox... it still isn't on my computers.
Webmail FTW!
"Spam" gets filtered out fairly well at the various sites I use... and it is merely a click to go bye bye.
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2kmaro
Think
Premium,ExMod 1 BC
join:2000-07-11
ColossalCave
clubs:  
| reply to TamaraB
Re: Duhhhhhh I get NO SPAM!
Wouldn't it be in the spirit of this website to provide a description of the process you use to not get SPAM? Remember that most people don't have the luxury of actually controlling their own email server and don't want any added expense of signing up with some other service (besides their ISP) to receive email.
My own solution - both at work and at my residence is a 2 or 3 layered one:
My ISP (who's business service the company uses) does pretty good SPAM/phishing filtering at their end - it's user adjustable, but for the business side, we pretty much have to keep it 'loose' to make sure we don't lose any business related email. Meanwhile on the desktops (all using MSFT Outlook) we use a 3rd party filter: Cloudmark's Desktop ( www.cloudmark.com ). Very effective. Most people also have the Outlook built-in junk email filter turned on (not real great but does catch some stuff). So with that setup, people in our offices who used to see 40 to 100 SPAM mails a day now maybe see 1 or 2 hit their inbox once a week.
So in response to "do we care" - in a way I don't because the filtering is doing the job. On the other hand, yes I do because I have to pay an annual fee to keep a "SPAM free" inbox. That's besides the real world fact that the majority of traffic on the internet consists of SPAM emails - there'd be a whole lot more bandwidth for us all if they'd just nuke the entire SPAMming conglomerate! |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
3 edits | reply to r81984
Re: Follow the money
Some did. When I had Prodigy dial up in the 90's they had an 'overseas' filter that blocked all mail originating from overseas servers. With it I received virtually no spam. It was part of a comprehensive anti-spam system they called Spamshield. It included this plus tons of filtering and blacklist subscription options.
»myhome.prodigy.net/help/email/sp···s.html#2
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antiphishing
Phishing Scam Terminator
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join:2004-06-09
Wilkes Barre, PA
|  Porn down, phishing up, but we don't care
I don't see phishing scams being 'up' in volume in the last two months but on the other hand Advance fees scams have been way up in the last six months or so.
I care about the problem of phishing scams and that's why I am actively involved with terminating the sites. 
The problem of junk email (spam) has been getting worse in the last three to four years now and it doesn't look like it's going to slow down anytime in the near future.
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Send your Phishing/Advance fee scams to: phish@antihotmail.com
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kpatz
MY HEAD A SPLODE
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH | reply to TamaraB
Re: Duhhhhhh I get NO SPAM!
And by posting your email address in this thread, you're gonna start getting SPAM pretty soon. |
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EUS
Kill cancer
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join:2002-09-10
Montreal, QC
clubs: | I never see the stuff.
Thanks to postfix with lookups to abuseat.org & spamcop.net. |
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Aleck79
join:2003-07-23
College Station, TX | I've got my email going thru gmail
got 3 accounts and all of them I have going thru gmail.
i might get 1 spam message a day, from any one of those 3 accounts. everything else gets sent straight to my spam folder  |
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