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| I'd bet Google can already do this to a certain extent
I'd be willing to bet that Google, with its huge stash of information from it's various online tools, can already do this to some extent. The EU and the US's FTC are already looking in to what Google is doing with the data it collects. »jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2···ards.php -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page |
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It's all part of the next version WGA. They'll use the technology to make sure you paid for your OS, and that you are the one using it. EULA's will be updated to "Per Specific User" licensing rather than by login or machine. And I'm sure they'll achieve a 0% false ID rate before rolling it out to everyone  -- Intel Quad Core QX6700 @3500Mhz/Asus P5N32-E SLI/4x 1024Mb Corsair/WD 74Gb Raptor/PNY 7800GTs SLI/Antec 550 True Control/Custom water cooler |
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1 edit | And people didn't believe that this would happen?
"Even if it did, the obvious privacy concerns and legal issues will prevent this from going anywhere. Well, should prevent this anyway.. "
Ya think?
You know that saying Government is of the people, for the people, by the people? Guess what ... Government is of the people, for rich industry, by rich industry. The richer the industry the more they control the people.
What we think of is government is either a sham facade for industry or other "special interest groups" and / or groups of glory hunters whose goal is to have their name in the history books. It's very little to do with the good governance of the people. |
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  CableConvert Premium join:2003-12-05 Atlanta, GA | Well Then...
why develop it if it will be illegal??? |
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| said by CableConvert :why develop it if it will be illegal??? For use in "helping to prevent all that piracy which is causing Microsoft to go broke"? -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. |
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Now that would be real front page news if it were true! |
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This is why end users are going to have to use browser robots to disquise any identifying characteristics.
This robot will simply surf randomly in the background, based on a google or newsfeed seeder, wasting bandwidth so a$$holes trying to track your activities can't get any pattern.
Anyone trying to determine who was at the keyboard will get a load of horse$hit data to analyze, and not be able to tell what surfing was really you, vs. the robot. Presto, reasonable doubt. |
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| reply to CableConvert Re: Well Then...
said by CableConvert :why develop it if it will be illegal??? You'd be surprised how much the words "In the interests of National Security" allow the US Government to sidestep existing law so they can do what they please...
If Microsoft ever decides to pitch this with an "Anti Terrorism" spin you can bet that there will be some politician somewhere who in trying to further his/her own political agenda, will jump all over this as a way to monitor "the bad guys" which actually REALLY means all of us....
Not that anyone is really anonymous on the internet anyway, but if brought in to mainstream use one day, this will be just one more Liberty/Freedom overtly taken away from the people of this country under the guise/false pretense of National Security. There is nothing National or Secure about this, as it is all about spying on the private lives of US citizens....plain and simple. |
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said by Sammer :Now that would be real front page news if it were true! That seemed to be part of the excuse for the highly intrusive "did you Really Buy this? No, I mean did you Really REALLY Buy this? No, I still do not believe you from last time, did you Really REALLY *REALLY* Buy this?" process Microsoft keeps trying to go through just to get the normal security hole fixes that are sent out all too often. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. |
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Just ask Comcast/AT&T/ or the NSA who I am and what I do online...
I have no shame... I'm a porn freak!
Two tabbed browsers open at any given time... care to guess what is on at least one of the tabs on at least one of the browsers?
You betcha!  Some are even high res! ...and people wonder why I get the TOL VAIOs with insano screens. DUH! 
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  93254336 Weapons Of Masturbation Premium join:2001-10-20 | Yet another good reason...
...not to use a Microsoft OS and/or web browser.
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| said by 93254336 :...not to use a Microsoft OS and/or web browser. - Dan Ummmm who said that this technology was exclusive to Microsoft products? |
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  swhx7 Premium join:2006-07-23 Elbonia | Forum thread about this
This was covered in this forum thread: »New software can identify you from your online habits |
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| Removing the Tinfoil...
Nobody is immune to having themselves spread [Legged] wide on today's collective agencies, or the net. Provided the 'Lock' for a purchases still works, I don't give a Rats. Who the heck believes they are so blasted important, that "They" will come looking....Lets see, a couple of billion users and just 'One' or two thinks they are targeted?
Of course if one falls into the sights of those they don't care to have them reviewed, then they should expect inspection that hardly applies to 98% of general users.
For the most part if one tends to relative obscurity, does not raise the ire of officials, what's the problem. |
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said by Camelot One :It's all part of the next version WGA. They'll use the technology to make sure you paid for your OS, and that you are the one using it. EULA's will be updated to "Per Specific User" licensing rather than by login or machine. And I'm sure they'll achieve a 0% false ID rate before rolling it out to everyone i Got my copy FREEE from Antelope Valley College (they give them out like candy if your in one of the computer classes)
it's an legit copy of windows 2003 hack over to Win XP pro -- Global warming did not eat my homework. |
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Window Update DID it ALL!!
from serial no. of your CPU to hashes of your registries, programs installed, & maybe your 'undeletable' IE's index.dat... & MAYBE the keys of your CryptAPI...ALL through port 443...
Don't believe??? check the windowupdate log in your windows directory...
There is no need to 'invent' another program, they are doing this all the way |
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If Microsoft were going to do something to pick your locks they would have done it a long time ago. They wrote the OS from the ground up after all. It's way WAY too late to be paranoid now. But then I digress... if Microsoft were up to something nefarious you, we, would have caught them a long time ago.
I for one would like to think that they've developed this capability to easily detect and report child porn and terrorism. But then I'm naive enough to think that this box of electrons can be used for something besides an amoral waste of skull sweat.
But back to my favorite analogy... If the computer is a drop of water, and all the computers together are an ocean, then Microsoft is a submarine that can lay on the bottom of the deepest part of that ocean and listen to the subtlest nuance of the most complex human.
Gates is devoting the attention of his money to aids because it is a world problem. Think about it- child porn and terrorism are world problems. I sure hope he has his head in the right place. -- You're an American. You get a free pass, but nobody rides for free. |
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  Rob A Same Old Jets Premium join:2005-01-17 Pompton Plains, NJ | Kinda creepy
I hope nothing like that ever gets created personally... |
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| reply to TKJunkMail Re: I'd bet Google can already do this to a certain extent
said by TKJunkMail :I'd be willing to bet that Google, with its huge stash of information from it's various online tools, can already do this to some extent. The EU and the US's FTC are already looking in to what Google is doing with the data it collects. » jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2···ards.php Guess im a exception to that ability then. recent topics searched on google. Dragons dingoes dog health problems dog breeds amd 64 mother boards ati nvidia ircd server irc services smithville ohio and about 50 other different topics. That was just from last night and this morning.
Search profiling fails when a user is searching for dozens of different topics.
Peoples intrests evolve all the time when they are online. new topics come up they search on etc -- Evil does exist and it has a face to often that face is one that should look on their child with love in their eyes.
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