mb
join:2000-07-23
Washington, NJ | Off shore blues
I'm betting that a generous amount of bandwidth will become available as US based products customer support returns on shore. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Not if the "off-shoring" was a source of funding for their broadband prospects. |
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TigerLord
Resident Pentaxian
Premium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal | Oh sweet irony...
Funny, that's where many ISP have started to outsource their call centers, and the citizens don't even have broadband ...  |
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manone
@airtelbroadband.in
|  Indian Consumer Broadband
Lets be VERY VERY clear here ....
India is a nation of TWO BILLION citizens and still growing.
So this aint exactly Fish and Chips ...
You cant just throw stuff at people and expect everyone to buy stuff.
Physically I doubt there is enough wires to connect everyone at those speeds ( 2Mbps and above) ...
I've got 256kps (read my fingers ) thats as reliable as you can get broadband in India.
Its gonna take time and any of youse European/American telecom giants wanting to one up any Indian government or sumthing can give Indians cheap Satellite Internet ...
That'll be a laugh innit ... |
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Pictor Guy
join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| said by manone :
Lets be VERY VERY clear here ....
India is a nation of TWO BILLION citizens and still growing.
So this aint exactly Fish and Chips ...
You cant just throw stuff at people and expect everyone to buy stuff.
Physically I doubt there is enough wires to connect everyone at those speeds ( 2Mbps and above) ...
I've got 256kps (read my fingers ) thats as reliable as you can get broadband in India.
Its gonna take time and any of youse European/American telecom giants wanting to one up any Indian government or sumthing can give Indians cheap Satellite Internet ...
That'll be a laugh innit ...
1. India is a country of 1.2 Billion, not 2 Billion. Lets be clear shall we?
2. 25% of the population is below the poverty line. Many people in India are more worried about putting food on the table and about infant mortality rate than HSI. Granted, there is a population in Bangalore, Chennai, Mumbai, and New Delhi who have a disposable income to buy HSI but lets not fool ourselves that the whole 1.2B will want it. The wires are there, that is in the homes that have a land phone line. If not, Airtell and others offer wireless options.
3. True, 256k is as reliable as it gets at least for the home (from what I have seen). Keeping power on to that modem is a bigger challenge. How many homes and business depend on generator power because power goes out on a daily basis? I've seen my share of exhaust stacks from generators along with commercials for APC Home UPS units.
4. Huh?!
The one thing no one should underestimate is the labor force and the hunger by people in India to capitalize on that force. |
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madrhino
join:2004-07-03
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by Pictor Guy  :The one thing no one should underestimate is the labor force and the hunger by people in India to capitalize on that force. I seriously doubt anyone is/will be missing that one.Like it or not, since Americans are no longer producing there own goods there has to be alternatives to China.I'd hate to see our military bogged down in 10 years due to lack of cell phone batteries or something.
Pentagon procurer in 2017: " Dammit, we need more cell phone batteries.Get on the phone to the factory and order another 50 containers full."
Pentagon Lackey- " But Sir, the Chinese Overlords have forbidden contact with Taiwan."
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Hmmmmmm
@rogers.com
| Well, so much for Crown Corps...
The plan was bound to fail, as any project that relies on government run black-holes, e.g. the phone companies, is not going to get far.
I remember a BBC article which stated that there are more cell phone subscribers in India than there are landlines, where the cell companies are private, I believe. That alone speaks volumes about state run monopolies vs. private corps. |
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fiddytwoone
@verizon.net | Outsourced
yes, well once congress passes immigration reform (corporate sellout of The United States of America)... India will have their broadband customer service outsourced to the U.S. with our Hispanics learning to speak "Apu" (Simpsons) Indian accent. |
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whocares
Premium
join:2003-07-26
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Re: Off shore blues
said by mb :I'm betting that a generous amount of bandwidth will become available as US based products customer support returns on shore. I wish i could share your hope, but UNTIL comsumers,as you & me demand that we be able-allowed to speak to someone in our own country that speaks english[/b] nothing is going to be done, except many consumers get P.O. |
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whocares
Premium
join:2003-07-26
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Re: Well, so much for Crown Corps...
does anyone speakum ze englash? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to Pictor Guy
Re: Indian Consumer Broadband
Let's also not forget they JUST got rid of the cass system too... so their society is still adjusting to a new way of life too. It wasn't too long ago that if you were born into a card board box, you'd die in one too.
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Steve
I'm a PC, so shut up
Consultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
1 edit | reply to whocares
Re: Off shore blues
said by whocares :I wish i could share your hope, but UNTIL comsumers, as you & me demand that we be able-allowed to speak to someone in our own country that speaks english[/b] nothing is going to be done, except many consumers get P.O. That won't happen until you and I are willing to spend more money for better products and support, and stop telling vendors — over and over — that price is the most important factor in a purchase decision.
Steve
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cchhat01
The Guru
join:2001-05-01
Elmhurst, NY
| whats the argument here?
I've had enough of crap being thrown around.
As being born an Indian and raised here I can identify with many of the concerns but please, for the sake of god, don't stereotype the country as having people who cant speak english.
I know a lot of people in the united states who cannot spell even in their mid twenties. People in India are far more exposed to education than any one in the US, let alone the few who get educated at the ivy league institutes.
Their english is well versed. There is a lot of British influence in their english and yes there is an accent because it is not their mother tongue.
Their knowledge of the matters which generally require technical support on many things is exceptional.
Enough digression from the actual topic. The problem about broadband is not the biggest problem in the nation. Their many concerns are food and the ability to keep their jobs. Things are not so easy as they are here in the States. There is still corruption and a big layer of bureaucracy which hinders the development of the nation by a huge amount.
The country is coming about, slowly but steadily, but its coming about. However, in the aspect of broadband, people are quite happy with what they are getting. Not many people have qualms about speeds because its work in progress and this is one country which is used to 'oh this was promised to us but we know it will never get done on time' unlike here. Be a little more patient with the country and you will see there is so much potential there.
I'm not saying this because I am of Indian descent, but because I've seen things there and I've seen things change quite drastically over the last 10 years. What we're lacking here is a big picture. People really need to read and see things for themselves before throwing stuff around which generally has very little exposure to a single aspect of the country.
So please, go educate yourselves!
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wellread
@verizon.net | reply to fiberguy
Re: Indian Consumer Broadband
The Mama Cass system?
Perhaps you meant Caste System. |
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KabalFranklin
@verizon.net
| reply to cchhat01
Re: whats the argument here?
Please provide evidence that the people of India have access to a better education system than those in the U.S. Once you've done that, please provide evidence that the people of India have access to clean drinking water and electricity in the majority of country.
All of that supposed education without any substance... too bad. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to fiddytwoone
Re: Outsourced
I'd go learn half-assed Hindi and take one of those support jobs for $1/hour. It would be so much fun getting some payback.... |
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singh
join:2002-01-30
Everett, WA
| reply to KabalFranklin
Re: whats the argument here?
I’ll opt for one full day without power loss over 2 megs of broadband, I’d love to have a constant flow of clean drinking water rather than having bits and bites flowing through my information pipe. Logistics and transportation is so crippled that a 20 mile journey takes 2 hours to complete. Govt should ponder on ways to align infrastructure growth with IT growth, why is IT sector booming beyond imagination while traffic situation is going hay wire? |
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Navinderpal1
join:2005-08-02
Edison, NJ
| Enlightenment
Taking a step back and looking at this from 2 views, I will say the following:
The country is divided into 2 sections on a monetary scale...Either you are rich or you are poor. Honestly, there is no "middle class" as we have here. India lacks for one reason and one reason alone: Politics. There are very bright and talented individuals there. Even having college degrees and Ph D's they are never given a chance at a job or a career because some Minister's or politicians family member or son got the job. This one example spans the entire country. Hopefully this allows everyone to better understand what it is like there. There are also very rich people in India similar to here and very poor, also similar to here. Getting off that for a minute, I believe if anyone is going to believe what I am writing in here, thats great, for those that do not agree or believe all I can say is the following: "Ignorance is bliss".
India is not as everyone sees it here. The technical knowledge that is here, is far greater there, only difference is that nobody there is given a chance because of corruption on a level that someone here cannot even imagine. |
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Chade76
join:2006-12-20
South Amboy, NJ | Arent most of the computer virus made in india |
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Navinderpal1
join:2005-08-02
Edison, NJ
| Ignorance is Bliss
"Arent most of the computer virus made in india"
See, that is a prime example of what I was saying earlier. I mean seriously, what kind of question is that? Viruses are written all over the world, ranging from the smallest country to the largest. Maybe the question to be asking (if ignorance was not a factor) is this: "Arent most of the computer viruses made in the USA?"
They are written all over the world. One of the largest hackers was arrested here in the USA and he was from here. and in case u ask inthe next post, no I am not anti-American. I am simply stating the facts. |
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