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Comments on news posted 2007-05-30 09:01:40: Welcome to the Product Spotlight. This is the first in a continuing series of articles highlighting individual broadband products in use by our community. These articles complement our Price Comparison series. ..

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inteller
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how much does DSLR get for "free" product placement?

it is a slippery slope to corporate shilldom.

so will this new product "spotlight" be cliff notes(tm) for those who are too lazy to browse the appropriate forums, or "unbiased" reviews of company promoted products? this first review doesn't make that clear.


ColorBASIC
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 I'll take the word of actual DSLR users thanks...

Ditch this nonsense and bring back broadband bytes to the front page instead of leaving it a faint little link in fine print.

I give this whole DSLR revamping a 0 out of 5. After giving it a few weeks I can still say I like the old ways way better. The new BBR reminds me of New Coke. Recognize this is a huge mistake and give us DSLR Classic.

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ColorBASIC
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Oh and let the satellite bashing begin

I give it about 10 posts before we see a "satellite sucks, FiOS is 15Mb for only $50 and no FAP".


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Satelite sucks might as wells tick with dial-up

WOW $60 for 700 Kbps. Sure it's 13 times faster than dial-up. WTF is the point of having that speed when you can't download more than 200 MB of data a day? According to my math you'll hit that within 39 minutes. Wild Blue isn't much better at 7500 MB a month( 250 MB a day average )on their $50 tier which has a speed of 512 Kbps. It would take you 1 hour and 7 minutes to hit 250 MB. On the faster tier you hit the cap even faster.

At minimum the cap for Wildblue cheapest tier should be 20 GB a month and 30 GB for Hughesnet's cheapest tier. The middle tier( same speed for both ) should be at least 50 GB and the fastest tier( same speed for both ) should be at least 100 GB. Then maybe it'd be worth getting for those in the boonies.

Speed increase would be nice too. $80 for 1.5 Mbps is joke.


ColorBASIC
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Woulda, coulda, shoulda...they don't have the capacity and in order to get it they would have to make it just that much more expensive. 200MB is plenty for an average user to get software updates, surf, send/rec email, do homework and other stuff that on dial up would take many hours.

It's not designed to watch Youtube or Slingbox 24/7. It's there for people who want to do pretty much the same thing they would do on dialup, just 10X faster. Remember, many rural dial up connections are slower than normal too, many struggle to get better than 19.2 or 28.8 and are stoked to get 38.4.

It would be great if Hughesnet and Wild Blue could crap bandwidth and give everyone 100Mb for $10, but they can't.
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LordMalak

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Brazil
reply to ColorBASIC
satellite sucks, FiOS is 15Mb for only $50 and no FAP

There, are you happy now?


Corona
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reply to inteller
Re: how much does DSLR get for "free" product placement?

Concur.

At least tell us how much DSLR just made for this "product placement".

Trevorm7

join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL
reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Satelite sucks might as wells tick with dial-up

It would hurt to crap out fiber optic cables.
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Raptor
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London, ON
reply to inteller
Re: how much does DSLR get for "free" product placement?

Whatever it was (if any), you'd think it would disappear considering the product seemed to get reamed pretty well. It certainly doesn't make me want to buy it!
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DaBavarian
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Saginaw, MI
reply to Corona
Put this "Product Placement" in small fine print and Broadband Bytes where it was.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Satelite sucks might as wells tick with dial-up

said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Woulda, coulda, shoulda...they don't have the capacity and in order to get it they would have to make it just that much more expensive.
Wild Blue just launched a satellite a couple of months ago they claim would boost capacity 6 fold. I believe Hughesnet is in line to launch TWO satellites. They have capacity. And they could launch more satellites. Verizon is spending well over a billion dollars a YEAR on FiOS expansion that's easily 4-5 satellites. They just CHOOSE not to compete.

200MB is plenty for an average user to get software updates, surf, send/rec email, do homework and other stuff that on dial up would take many hours.


I bet you use more than 200 MB a day. Whoa re you tosay someon else can't? Also when I updated XP to SP2 it took me over 30 minutes to download at 3 Mbps. That's still 3 hours at 512 Kbps and 2 hours and 10 min at 700 Mbps. And XP is almost ALWAYS wanting you to download some kind of update. Not to mention many other applications.

It's not designed to watch Youtube or Slingbox 24/7. It's there for people who want to do pretty much the same thing they would do on dialup, just 10X faster.
Please you're not stupid enough to believe that someone who just surfs and read e-mail will get to do that 10 times faster? You don't need super speed to read an e-mail. Basic websites are not going to load noticably faster at 512 Kbps or 700 Kbps than dial-up. High bandwidth sites will of course. But you just said satelite isn't for that type of user. So you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Who in the hell are you to dictate what kind of surfer a person out in the boonies SHOULD be? You: "Well Mr Boonieguy you are only allowed to be an 'average' surfer that only reads e-mail and occasionally downloads software updates. Meanwhile because I live in the city I'll be using 200 GB a month because I'm special."


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reply to inteller
Re: how much does DSLR get for "free" product placement?

It isn't a "product placement", it is cliff-notes for those who don't want to spend hours days and weeks reading forums. If users, in the forums, rate something highly, then it'll be reflected in the article. If on the whole they hate a product, it'll also be reflected in the article.

And of course we get zip, zero, nothing from the company concerned for doing it - not that Hughes would hand over any cash for this one, even if they were asked..

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reply to BF69
Re: Satelite sucks might as wells tick with dial-up

Too bad the latency over satellite makes any useful applications of high speed internet pointless. I have a friend on satellite and his latency over the first 2 hops is always around 700-1000ms. Satellite as a whole isnt useful for much more than web browsing and checking ur email. Realtime comm over apps like ventrillo, and most online games are just a joke on satellite.


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reply to LordMalak
Re: satellite sucks, FiOS is 15Mb for only $50 and no FAP

said by LordMalak See Profile :

There, are you happy now?
not yet. he has to spew forth about taxes and fees and being robbed by the government. then he'll be happy.


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 reply to inteller
Re: how much does DSLR get for "free" product placement?

did you even read what was written? it was not positive.


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reply to ColorBASIC
Re: I'll take the word of actual DSLR users thanks...

Don't you worry 8-bit. Justin knows what he is doing, NOT!
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reply to ColorBASIC
said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Ditch this nonsense and bring back broadband bytes to the front page instead of leaving it a faint little link in fine print.

I give this whole DSLR revamping a 0 out of 5. After giving it a few weeks I can still say I like the old ways way better. The new BBR reminds me of New Coke. Recognize this is a huge mistake and give us DSLR Classic.

I like the classic DSLR better as well (referring to the morning broadband bytes). Better taste, better look, and enough carbs to make me feel good.
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SierraRob

join:2007-01-10
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reply to deepblackmag
Re: Satelite sucks might as wells tick with dial-up

"most online games are just a joke on satellite"

One interesting exception is World of Warcraft. As long as your pings are below 1000ms, WoW is actually quite playable on satellite. It probably would not be good for a rogue trying to do high-speed combo moves like a fighting game, but for a priest or mage like me, it works fine.


Alpine
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Atlanta, GA
reply to inteller
Re: how much does DSLR get for "free" product placement?

Does BBR whining ever cease? Inteller, did you even read the piece?

"Corporate shilldom," please...

Adam


Jameson
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disagree

As it does appear that satisfied customers do exist out there, we rate HughesNet negative 10 dishes out of five..
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