atuarre
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clubs:  | I call bullshit
This is complete and utter bullshit. If thats the case, then I, and every other joe blow out there should be compensated for cell phone signals, other than our selected carriers passing through our airspace. |
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Mactron
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said by atuarre  :This is complete and utter bullshit. If thats the case, then I, and every other joe blow out there should be compensated for cell phone signals, other than our selected carriers passing through our airspace. Perhaps because your not a Sovereign Indian Nation ? |
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firewire9999
join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI | LOL
Me thinks they to much "airspace" between the ears. |
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aztecnology
O Rly?
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Murrieta, CA | Wha...?
This sounds eerily familiar to California trying to get a piece of Directv because of the airspace to beam signals... |
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Camelot One
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Re: I call bullshit
Well you have to consider this. The FCC "sold" the rights to those frequencies to the cell companies. Where did they get the right to sell the airspace over your house and mine? Because they are the government.
Now you or I trying to collect $$ from a cell company for our air space, sure, that won't fly. But it's because we don't own the airspace, the US Government does.
But an Indian Reservation IS a separate country under the law, so I could see SOME merit in this. It's no different than France selling spectrum, and then England wanting a cut for the signals traveling over England.
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | reply to atuarre
Bullshit my ass that's a great idea. So in the same vein I'm suing you for breathing my air!
Hee. |
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Logan 5
Wondering what happens next..
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The WasteLAN | Whatta bunch of crap
how is greed a compensatable item? NO ONE owns the earth, just because they are indians and have lived ON the land for 100's or 1000's of years, does not mean that they (or anyone) has a valid legal claim TO it's usage rights. |
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bigunk
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join:2001-02-10
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| And if they don't get paid?
How will they stop the signals from passing over their land if they don't get a penny? And what of those on the land that rely on their cellphones? Who do they pay? MOney out of one pocket into the other? Sorry Chief Sitting Bull, this is a non-starter.
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atuarre
Here come the drums
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Re: I call bullshit
You don't own air. Did you make the air? The same goes for this. These indians are just riddled with greed. Cell phone signals are not a natural resource. Cell phone signals do not come from the Earth. They come from cell towers.
Again, this is complete and utter greedy bullshit. |
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Stumbles
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Port Saint Lucie, FL | Well that don't matter when your dealing with absurdities. |
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Toguro
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Ottawa, IL | Casino
Maybe they should stick to casinos, every body loves the casinos.  |
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gopnick
join:2005-01-07
Benton, AR | How completely stupid
It's good to know that Canada has as big of a problem with crap litigation and needs tort reform as bad as we do in the USA. |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | in future news, Manitoba becomes cellular black hole
they will sing a different tune when the Canadian government and cell companies give them a collective middle finger and simply don't provide service there. |
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i1me2ao
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TEXAS | great
then i want payment for the dam medical helicopter that comes from houston and turns at my house to head to local hospital..
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Camelot One
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Re: I call bullshit
said by atuarre :You don't own air. Did you make the air? The same goes for this. These indians are just riddled with greed. Cell phone signals are not a natural resource. Cell phone signals do not come from the Earth. They come from cell towers. Again, this is complete and utter greedy bullshit. And the FCC is able to sell spectrum, because?
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fiberguy
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The injins may be sovereign nations but they are a small "incident" from loosing their nations.
Treatys? In today's era, they're simple pieces of paper which can be run through a shredder.
IN MY OPINION, the indian sovereign nation is just a symbolic thing any more. I KNOW they are sovereign nations but like I said.. symbolic at best.
In the U.S., for example, that could be changed pretty quick.
- Cut them off from the U.S. They don't want the signals? cut them off! Place embargos on them, etc etc. Let them feast from the land.
- They can be starved off in many ways such as they were doing here in MN when the indians tried to flex their muscles.
Largely, we still, as the daddy nations, tell them what they can and can't do anyway. If they were truly sovereign, then why do WE regulate their gambling activity?
Last time I checked, the Indians didn't really have an army.. hell, in SD until recently, it was legal to shoot or kill Indians in groups of 5 or more as it was an old law having to do with a hostile attack.
This whole story is funny.
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TOPDAWG
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Re: in future news, Manitoba becomes cellular black hole
You don't live in Canada then. The government won't do a thing to the Indians.
Exp they tend to take over a area and hold it hostage to they get whatever they want. In one area they've taken over a area and it has cost the government something like 180 million cause they have to have cops there at all times. This has been going on a year in the area. The government is just to sissy to do anything about it.
The Canadian government is some of the biggest sissy's you ever want to see. Allot of the land claims are BS cause they have proof the Indians turned them over. However they yell but that was not a fair price. I say to bad it was a fair price then you can't turn around and say that just cause it's worth more now.
Here the Indians were given land free housing and wal-fare.
I call BS there people were the ones who sold it or signed it over. |
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nixen
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Re: I call bullshit
said by Camelot One :It's no different than France selling spectrum, and then England wanting a cut for the signals traveling over England. Given that radio frequencies are generally "line of site" and England is pretty much over the horizon from France, this isn't a terribly valid comparison.
At any rate...
If the Indians want a cut, do it by hosting repeaters. Or, if they want to force the issue, set up interference generators on their territories and turn their lands into cell black holes. If it's important enough, the carriers will try to cut a deal.
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Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to atuarre
you cant control where a radio signal goes from an omnidirectional antenna array, so this is a money grab that is all.
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whocares
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can't wait TO SEEE how
THEY ARE GOING TO have to show "AN ACTUAL AIR WAVE" GOING THROUGH THEIR SKY/airspace
not just recieve one, but actual see it traveling through "'THEIR AIR", and WHO says its "their air",
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can the United States charge Ca a fine when "their air cross's the boarder into our country illegally? |
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