rudnicke
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join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL | Trust
At this point, I would trust the union over a Verizon spokesperson. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| Coincidence ?
"but if Verizon wants to keep state and federal regulators off its back, it can't become so infatuated with its new FiOS hotness that the copper network becomes old and busted."
Should read ?.. "Just enough to keep them off their backs"
Funny I only see about half as many VZ Repair trucks parked at night in their yard as I use to. Hmmmm Coincidence ?
So far so good here in Central Ca. Fingers crossed.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD |  That Sucks!
The more money and time Verizon wastes on keeping copper running the less money and time it has to deploy FIOS!
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n1zuk
My wood is stacked
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join:2001-10-24
South Burlington, VT | Uh-huh
Folks here in Vermont believe that. Verizon can't get rid of us, and our copper, fast enough for them... |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | Numbers
Any numbers to back up anyones claims? Something about uptime or consumer complaints should provide a real graph of who's telling the truth and who's just trying to make themselves look good. |
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  Verizon is a Business!
Verizon is a Business first, it will not neglect it's customers if the need is there. Yes, the future is FiOS and the priority will remain there, but if Copper is the best solution for an area Verizon will maintain it. The CWA is just fighting for it's aging Labor Force, that can't or is unwilling to train in the New Technology. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
| reply to Maxo
Re: Numbers
said by Maxo  :Any numbers to back up anyones claims? Exactly... if Verizon landlines stopped working due to neglect, it would literally front page news.
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TheGhost
Premium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL
clubs:
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
| reply to alchav
Re: Verizon is a Business!
What you stated is correct, but Verizon may not be investing to keep the copper plant running much past when they plan on dumping it (sell off, whatever).
The issue some people, myself include, have with the ILECs is that the initial infrastructure was built under a cost+ model, they had no risk. They were they able to use this risk free infrastructure to bankroll all these new technologies. Now they are dumping and unwilling to share the new infrastructure, which again, was built off of a monopoly cost+ model. |
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
 ·Sprint Broadband D..
| reply to pnh102
Re: That Sucks!
You are so correct. Let those clowns who live in areas without FIOS resort to communicating with smoke signals and jungle drums! After all, they chose to live there!
Ghod forbid the gubmint steps in and makes them maintain their utilities or something. |
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soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
| reply to TheGhost
Re: Verizon is a Business!
What else would you expect the CWA to say? With FIOS, fewer technicians are needed to support the network. That threatens their jobs and their membership. A Telco can not simply just ignore their network. Their fines would cost more than the "savings" they get by neglecting copper. There are always two sides to every story and half truths being told by both sides. People just like to believe what coincides with their point of view.
People's opinion are being reported as "news". Welcome to journalism in America today. |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state | reply to rudnicke
Re: Trust
Where is the proof? The union just spouts stuff off but there is nothing there to back it up. Photos? Statistics of service being down? CSR stats? Where is the proof? Anyone can say anything they want but without proof, its crap. |
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joshuad156
join:2003-06-10
Englewood, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Just more unfounded statements
My telco is Verizon, and I live in a plat where copper was deployed 30 years ago. Capacity is maxed out in my neighborhood and if a line goes bad or you want a second line Verizon will split your line digitally as there are no available lines in the area. When we asked why not they basically told us that since our neighborhood was so old, they wouldn't update or upgrade our area at all. No new lines for older houses. What a crock.
Also, there are DSL boxes within reach of my house, but because of line quality and digital splitting, I was unable to get DSL at my actual location. Needless to say I have since dropped my landline all together and do not do business with Verizon anymore. |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | It needs to be said.
I guess I will be the first one to say this, screw the unions. |
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| Here's the real story....
»www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=6588688
CWA's gonna be headed into contract negotiations with Verizon soon. This is a good way to get the membership pumped up, and let the their employer know that they're "there".
I'm not saying Verizon ISN'T neglecting it's copper plant in VA, I'm not there, and I don't know anyone who is.
I do know that our union pulls the same stunts when we're coming up for contract negotiations. It gets people pumped up for negotiations, and gives the employer pause....
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to TScheisskopf
Re: That Sucks!
said by TScheisskopf :You are so correct. Let those clowns who live in areas without FIOS resort to communicating with smoke signals and jungle drums! After all, they chose to live there! We have cable. Should the quality of Verizon's service degrade to the point where it is unusable, people will simply drop it, as there is little point in paying money for a service that isn't usable anyway.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | These are not the driods you are looking for.
....and the copper here is not deteriorating. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| reply to rudnicke
Re: Trust
said by rudnicke :At this point, I would trust the union over a Verizon spokesperson. And I would trust almost anyone before I would trust a union leader.
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snod_ix
join:2007-06-12
Gate City, VA | so thats why the sold a million lines to fairpoint:)
so thats why they sold a million lines to fair point. |
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chemaupr
join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Trust
I agree with you. Union leaders are as bad as CEOs. They only care about their pockets |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Wireless too
Poor VZ Wireless customers, I cry for thy
Crippled phones, bandwidth caps.. "Try Us, 30 Days for free!"
No hope in sight, all decided to flee.
Don't brake the bank on fibre, money doesn't grow on trees.
Remove my copper? Over my dead body, leave it intact where it may be. |
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