Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| Fingers crossed
So far Verizon has been ignoring calls to invade my privacy while using their pipe. Hope it stays that way. I have to like Verizon for some reason you know. 
"Verizon Communications Inc., which has fiercely guarded the privacy of its customers, has refused so far to offer a network anti-piracy tool. It defeated in court the recording industry's demands to reveal names of those allegedly involved in downloading pirated songs."
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA | I wonder...
How much AT&T is getting from Hollywood/RIAA?
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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|  Do Their Homework First?
Is AT&T going to jump headfirst into the shallow piracy catching pool, or are they going to insist that anyone who wants them to rat out copyright infringers provide actual, irrefutable and indisputable proof that the person in question actually violated the copyright?
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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | This is the last straw
If Mediacom ever decides to deploy my home phone and DSL go bye bye. AT&T, I have had enough of your stupid tactics. |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL |  Ut-O
Guess it's time to drop Cingular and find a new service. I in no way want to contribute to a company is "aligned with Hollywood." |
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Verizon
@sgns.net
| Interesting.
Not a very good way to gain customers. When all their customers get busted and have to cancel there DSL subscription because their 80 year old grandma was downloading a "Free" song that somone offered to them. Soon they won't have anymore customers. LOL  |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
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| reply to Vertickle
Re: Ut-O
said by Vertickle  :Guess it's time to drop Cingular and find a new service. I in no way want to contribute to a company is "aligned with Hollywood." Show me a company that is not aligned with Hollywood. Good luck.
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ATTgay
@sgns.net
| Maybe time for everyone to switch to Cable.....
Not a very good way to gain customers. When all their customers get busted and have to cancel there DSL subscription because their 80 year old grandma downloaded a "Free" song that somone offered to them. Soon they won't have anymore customers. LOL |
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steve19726
bum
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join:2002-01-17
Chicago, IL
clubs: | Good luck..
All I have to say is.. good luck combating piracy.. others have tried and failed miserably! |
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XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL | This could be big for Covad !
This is great there will be people running back to clec. I use to have Earthlink via Covad and it was solid although a little bit expensive. |
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Jeffrey
Merry Christmas
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join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
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·Optimum Online
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| reply to steve19726
Re: Good luck..
said by steve19726 :All I have to say is.. good luck combating piracy.. others have tried and failed miserably! I have to wonder whether the cost of trying to stop an unstoppable force is cheaper than the "losses" incurred from piracy itself.
Can anyone - for just the sake of conversation here - name any copy protection or piracy stopping method that has actually has any meaningful impact?
When I think of people trying to stop piracy, I think of a lot of wasted time and effort. Not to say that stopping piracy isn't a legitimate cause, but I just have to wonder where the law of diminishing returns starts - money spent to try and stop it vs money lost in not stopping it.
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"When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your foresight becomes a nimble vagrant."
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
1 edit | reply to ATTgay
Re: Maybe time for everyone to switch to Cable.....
What to get "Letters" from a CableCo instead?
Read about "Letters" in the Comcast forum here.
Ok that idea works... 
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CrazyFingers
join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
2 edits | reply to steve19726
Re: Good luck..
Hey now, just because "the article is vague on specifics because the technology hasn't been designed or implemented yet..." doesn't mean all you dirty, dirty pirates aren't in real trouble.
"AT&T insists that once a technology is chosen, and their wookie scientists from beyond the moon build it, and the President of the United States of Hollywood unleashes his untamed hordes of rabid blind bassett hounds on your pathetic peg-legged-eye-patched asses, you'll all be sorry!!"
Y'all better get to repentin'. Ayup.
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
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Yeah, this will not work. If I rip a CD and upload it to someone else, how are they going to know? I can rip it in various formats, saving it with different bitrates. I can then zip it and rename it to something like "How to cook four humans.txt". Are they going to compare every byte on their network to a possible match? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to Jeffrey
said by Jeffrey :Can anyone - for just the sake of conversation here - name any copy protection or piracy stopping method that has actually has any meaningful impact? What about copy protections for video games, more specifically, the technology used to prevent copying of PS2, PSP, Xbox and Xbox 360 games. You don't hear about rampant piracy of this content.
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raydog1
Feel Secure
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join:2003-07-10
La Vergne, TN | Correction. . .
"The article is vague on specifics because the technology hasn't been invented yet." |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
·Knology
| reply to ptrowski
Re: Ut-O
said by ptrowski :Show me a company that is not aligned with Hollywood. Good luck. Do your own research! |
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Jeffrey
Merry Christmas
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join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
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·Optimum Online
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| reply to pnh102
Re: Good luck..
said by pnh102 :said by Jeffrey :Can anyone - for just the sake of conversation here - name any copy protection or piracy stopping method that has actually has any meaningful impact? What about copy protections for video games, more specifically, the technology used to prevent copying of PS2, PSP, Xbox and Xbox 360 games. You don't hear about rampant piracy of this content. Excellent point. I didn't think of that, but I will agree with that. I don't think your average person is going to mod his Xbox (and risk banning from XBL) just to save a few $. If the DVDs were able to be copied on the computer, and then inserted into the Xbox and work, I believe we'd be hearing a lot more about that. But, that is not the case.
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"When you get lost in your imaginatory vagueness, your foresight becomes a nimble vagrant."
[Ramblings] [RIP Millie 1993-2006]
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | Re: AT&T to Target Pirated Content
So we can't use torrents anymore? |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| Losing Common Carrier status?
It was my understanding that Internet Service Providers enjoyed a special status called "Common Carrier." One of the benefits to this status was that they weren't liable for illegal activities taking place on their lines.
Just like AT&T couldn't be sued because two bank robbers coordinated their plans using AT&T's phone service, AT&T couldn't be sued because two file sharers swapped pirated movies over AT&T's DSL service.
The catch was (in my understanding) that AT&T couldn't try to proactively reduce illegal activities since that would open them up to lawsuits on the activities that they didn't stop. (They could still react to illegal activities, such as disconnecting a user found to be distributing pirated movies.)
Now, with AT&T seeking out alleged copyright infringement on their network, would they be opening themselves up to lawsuits from other copyright holders whose work AT&T didn't stop from being illegally shared? |
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