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jhtime
@sbcglobal.net
| Re: "closely aligned..." said by djrobx  :If AT&T wants to try and stop piracy they're welcome to try, but they shouldn't forget that people are highly (and sometimes rightfully) paranoid about their privacy. There's a a healthy percentage of their customers have cable internet and telephony as a connectivity option. It's now more possible than ever for people to take their business completely away from AT&T if they chose to. They should tread very lightly. They convinced me, I'm switching to Verizon. | |
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@charter.com | You made a good point.
I, for one, has got rid off ALL AT&T services, including Land phone and DSL, and Cell phone | |
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MemphisPCGuy
Senior Systems Engineer
Premium
join:2004-05-09
Memphis, TN
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| ATT then liable as well ? Wasn't there an issue with ISP's not being held responsible since they didn't "know' what the data was. Won't the fact they would now KNOW allow ATT to be sued for copyright infringement by anyone/everyone since they could then be considered 'Content Providers'? they would not be able to cherry pick just Hollywoods list of goodies... they would be responsible for Everyones copyrighted material.
I could be wrong... 
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hmmm
@keane.com
| is it going to matter.. Is it going to matter if your a customer, what if at&t's monitoring system is based on thier internet backbone? If your ISP peers with AT&T and they have some system monitoring like thier San Francisco CIA basement operation no one is safe. They'll just pick up the torrent, newgroup, emule etc. traffic, inspect and send your IP and infringement info to the entertainment mafias. And who _doesnt_ peer with AT&T.. amazing. | |
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Mega DETH
It's All About The Ping
join:2003-08-20
Watertown, WI | Didn't think this would happen so soon...but whatever Time to use the encrypted Usenet service 
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join:2007-04-07
Addis, LA
| Competetion "The good news for AT&T is that there's so little competition that where else are the customers going to go?"
AMen. My only other choice is Cox, and I'm not sure if they even offer service in my neighborhood.
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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| Re: Competetion said by Kevin Dupuy :"The good news for AT&T is that there's so little competition that where else are the customers going to go?" AMen. My only other choice is Cox, and I'm not sure if they even offer service in my neighborhood. What about DSL Extreme? AFAIK, they have their own data network from the DSLAM, and DSLX packets don't touch the AT&T data network.
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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ShootToThril
Tell The Truth
Premium
join:2004-06-07
Sherman Oaks, CA
clubs: | Re: Competetion as i recall, their lines are leased from ATT so no cigar. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Re: Competetion said by ShootToThril :as i recall, their lines are leased from ATT so no cigar. Um, DSLX runs on AT&T copper from the DSLAM to the premises, but are you sure they are running on the AT&T data network from the DSLAM to the Internet? From what the DSLX gurus state, the DSLAM is the only point of intersection between DSLX and AT&T. DSLX reportedly has their own network from the DSLAM out.
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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ShootToThril
Tell The Truth
Premium
join:2004-06-07
Sherman Oaks, CA
clubs: | Re: Competetion well they offer the same speeds as ATT with the same pricing.... i don't know. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| Re: Competetion I can't find the post in the DSLX forum; I am pretty sure that DSLX uses their own Redback, or Juniper aggregation routers. The only question is, how is data moved between the DSLX Redbacks and the DSLAMs in the AT&T CO/RTs?
A couple of years ago there were issues with SBC which caused me to start lobbying my landlady to switch to DSLX. I think it is time to renew that effort.
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | nsa riaa mpaa ... u can see the trend at&t follows 3 and 4 letters makes all the difference | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: nsa They're going to need the NSA's codebreaking skills if
they are going to defeat anti-piracy countermeasures
that users on their network are going to take if they
actually implement their plans to actively police their
network for pirated content.
Filtering filesharing only encourages the development of
encrypted means of getting content.
There has yet to be any anti-piracy technology, short of
that already mentioned for XBox and other video game
consoles (and this applies only to modded consoles being
barred from online play), that has withstood any efforts
at being defeated.
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We are the Hacker Collective: Resistance Is Futile - All Your AACS Keys Will Be Assimilated. | |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
Premium
join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One | ok, but... If only AT&T (and other ISPs) took such an initiative to fight spam and malware on their networks... | |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| Re: The Empire of the Thought Police begins said by KrK :.... How long will it before full corporate censorship on the Internet is in full effect? A year at max. | |
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BobbytheBrain
@sbcglobal.net
| Ha!!! They Made Up This Excuse for Newsgroups as Well Bet the real issue is they want to save bandwidth either because it they don't want to keep upgrading to meet the demand of new & current users OR they want to reserve bandwidth for U-Verse. SBC/AT&T just likes to shift blame on others so they can lower their costs without customers complaining. They realize the general public are a bunch of suckers who will believe anything. | |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | good luck with that "pirates" who are unfairly targeted will leave in droves. | |
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81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA | usenet is not going any were Usenet is not going any were, so no worry for millions of people that pirate
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81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
| Re: usenet is not going any were said by KrK :said by 81399672 :Usenet is not going any were, so no worry for millions of people that pirate AT&T already caps USENET at what, like 128k down? they are not the only ones that provide access to usenet
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lpdffjdlk
@sbcglobal.net
| AT&A can have sex with my datastream
I See U! |
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f System
@comcast.net
| boo boo likes peanuts Yea so what. when hollywood gets done chewing up the internet it will be nothing more than streaming commercials
a new network/medium will surface shortly that will be by the people for the people.
It too will be bought sold. this is a game. | |
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johndoe303
join:2003-01-01
Boca Raton, FL | This is sick. wow.  | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | Now you know why at&t is half fiber. Fiber to the node is more then enough for legal internet use. | |
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kmac1
Off in new directions
Premium,VIP
join:2001-06-07
Port Neches, TX
| Quit worrying your hearts out!! As an EX-ATT employee, who actually started the SBC/ATT tech support here at BBR, let me say this:
AT&T can kiss my ass!
They can say whatever they want in a press release, but the actual retards that think DRM is just a band from the 80's, will never be able to make it work.
Now, keep in mind, we're talking about corporate monkey boys and girls whose only concern is making numbers match up in their countless spreadsheets that they e-mail back and forth in their respective divisions, justifying their jobs. They couldn't care less whether you are happy as a customer or not. As long as their spreadsheets have all the cells filled with numbers that make their existence in the ATT corporate scheme viable, that's all they're concerned about.
It's all corporate speech to make the corporate, govt. world happy.
If they think they can monitor and catch anyone who really knows what they're doing on the Internet, then they could probably go ahead and give the US military the exact location that Bin Laden is taking his terrorist vacation at.
Has it happened? Will it happen? Hmmm....... not! | |
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