Time4aNAP
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Des Plaines, IL | Noooooo...Really?
Does this come as a surprise to anyone? |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by Time4aNAP  :Does this come as a surprise to anyone? No, they want all the benefit without any of the risk. Let someone else take the chance. And that is why the current big players(cable and telcos) will continue to rule.
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IASandman
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Like the large telcos have stepped up to the plate to deliver any type of broadband to rural America? They have owned spectrum for how many years now? |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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Re: Noooooo...Really?
said by TKJunkMail :.... Let someone else take the chance. And that is why the current big players(cable and telcos) will continue to rule. Excuse me? Google doesn't take chances? And the big telcos and cablecos do? Can I have some of what you're smoking?
Additionally, let's consider the track record for veracity among Google, the telcos, the cablecos, and the satcos. Then look at who Commissioner Addledbrains chooses to disbelieve. [And yes, you may note that I am not defending Microsoft.]
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russotto
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Collegeville, PA | In other news...
Entering "FCC" in the Google search engine turns up only pictures of weasels. Google has blamed this on a "technical glitch". |
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ftthz
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join:2005-10-17 | we all saw this coming
no suprize ... |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
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| don't make the leases too long
It's kind of a chicken and egg problem, people aren't going to invest in a spectrum until they actually have it. FCC is the type to change its mind and screw over those without the right lobbyists.
Bush or whoever the next president is needs to be serious about nationwide network connectivity and kick the FCC into doing the right thing. If the coalition doesn't produce anything with the license, auction it later. We should be trying WiMax and everything else we can to improve our nation's internet connectivity, it's a risk worth taking, and it can always be reused if we fail. |
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Camelot One
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1 edit | The FCC as future predictor?
The FCC can't even get a handle on the CURRENT state of broadband in the US. This is a group who still thinks broadband being available to a single house in a zip code means the entire zip code is "broadband ready".
So where the hell do they get of stating what will or won't, and what may or may not happen in the future? |
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Time4aNAP
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Re: Noooooo...Really?
said by TKJunkMail :No, they want all the benefit without any of the risk. Let someone else take the chance. And that is why the current big players(cable and telcos) will continue to rule. I think that you're still operating under the assumption that MS/Google have any intentions whatsoever to utilize the spectrum allocation. It's an obvious blocking maneuver on their part.
Debt-free corporate giants like MS/Google can afford to throw an amount of cash that's chump change to them at "developing" markets that they want to dominate without any effort. The best way to do that is to stifle development by anyone. And in this case, that can be accomplished by buying up chunks of spectrum, and just sitting on them.
Without regulation, it's a win-win for the corporate leviathans. They can still sell the rights to the spectrum, usually at a profit, if they want or need to. And if it looks like some enterprising people might eat their lunch on some other band, they can always use the frequencies for their intended purpose.
What's surprising here is that the FCC is actually doing its job for the first time in years. I guess that someone there noticed that 2008 is nigh, and that odds are that sitting on their hands isn't going to provide job security. |
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NOCMan
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| This is stupid. FCC is becoming redundant and clearly
Kissing up to their political funders.
So they do not think that MicroSoft (God I'm actually defending them..ugh..) who has more than 30 *pinky in mouth* billion dollars, and Google with a Market Cap of over 400 Billion dollars can not scrape together 25 billion dollars on this venture.
I'm sure Cisco and Juniper are just wetting their pants when they think of the investement into a network like that. Not to mention the thousands of jobs that would be created just to install the network and later support it.
It's high time someone stepped in and competed with the Telco and Cableco's. All I have ever seen in the last 20 years are pockets of competition and otherwise a ingeniously divided up portions of markets nationwide.
If there was true competition we would see winners and losers. All we ever see is status quo.
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Time4aNAP
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| said by NOCMan :So they do not think that MicroSoft (God I'm actually defending them..ugh..) who has more than 30 *pinky in mouth* billion dollars, and Google with a Market Cap of over 400 Billion dollars can not scrape together 25 billion dollars on this venture. No. As even the teaser at the top of the page makes clear, it's not about "can"; it's about "will". Although they are clearly capable of doing so, the FCC has reason to believe that they have no intention of doing so. |
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Samsonian
join:2007-06-15
| They never said that.
When did Google, Intel, Microsoft, et al. ever say they were planning on building their own wireless network?
That's not their core business. Their business is dependent on their customers having broadband access, as it ultimately drives revenue for them. Which is why they're using lobbying muscle to see that a 'third pipe' comes to fruition, which would provide more broadband availability and competition. Their motives for supporting this are pretty clear.
While they're unlikely to build their own wireless network, that doesn't mean they won't fund companies that will. Case in point, the Intel investment in Clearwire. |
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Franklin5
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You guys are a bit confused. "White Space" and "700MHz" are two completely different topics, with separate regulatory histories, covering independent groups of frequencies. Adelstein is not referring to the unlicensed white space efforts of google and microsoft et al in lower TV channels, which have no relevance to the 700MHz licensed spectrum. Adelstein is referring to the satellite TV providers entering the market with licensed 700MHz spectrum. |
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