niagara_man1
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Niagara Falls, NY | All I have to say is
WTF ........... |
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rawgerz
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Grove City, PA | I second that. |
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | NBC so what.
Whats wrong NBC all your shows suck wherefor you are going to attack something else? |
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datwell1
join:2002-01-08
Falls Church, VA |  What?
What are these guys smoking? Do they think that even the US Government is so stupid as to buy into their looney argument? Amazing!
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TKJunkMail
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|  NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it
The complaint is legitimate and the FCC should seriously consider it while examining submitted comments about creating rules on the network neutrality docket at the FCC.
Any rules concerning network neutrality that the FCC may eventually adopt after examining the comments must not institutionalize the rampant copyright infringement that now takes place on the internet. A huge part of what the US exports is intellectual property and allowing the theft of that property will seriously affect the US economy and balance of trade with other nations.
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Modworks
join:2007-02-16
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NBC forgets that in this country you are still innocent until proven guilty.
If the federal government knew that 60-70% of the payload was illegal , yes they would stop it.
The question is, how are they to find out ?
Does NBC expect the government to be given the right to open every single package ups has because they "might" be illegal.
This is clearly what NBC wants. How do they know that 90% traffic is illegal ? Are they opening every single packet and inspecting what it is ?
Its just more hype from the media , they aren't making the money they once did and are looking for a scape goat.
p2p is far from 60-70% of all internet traffic.
What these companies want is for there servers to become your internet firewall, where they can decide what you can and cannot access. China anyone ? |
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batterup
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The money changers forgot, Terrorists and 9/11. |
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ARGONAUT
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join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | What's next?
If you use P2P your supporting terrorism!  |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to batterup
Boo-Hoo
NBC is upset because their programing is so crappy more people watch the lame stuff on Youtube then NBC.
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curious2
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70% of all stats are made up! |
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Mtav80
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Loveland, CO | Question
How would they police it? Force all ISPs to monitor every single users net usage? |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
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Re: NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it
said by TKJunkMail  :The complaint is legitimate and the FCC should seriously consider it while examining submitted comments about creating rules on the network neutrality docket at the FCC. Any rules concerning network neutrality that the FCC may eventually adopt after examining the comments must not institutionalize the rampant copyright infringement that now takes place on the internet. A huge part of what the US exports is intellectual property and allowing the theft of that property will seriously affect the US economy and balance of trade with other nations. Here is a revolutionary thought ! Help the customer get what they want at a price the market will bare and profit. Instead of fight tooth and nail against a new business model and falter.
The us is a major ip exporter , but we also send it to be produced outside our country. Why can't we become a major player in the world of manufactured good like were in the great hay days of this country ? Oh that's right because profits are before pride. And they expect any different from other countries who are "stealing" our ip ? Please.
Give the customers what they want and profit. We are a global market now. Hence stop the regionizing of the content. Put it on the web with some commercials at the beginning , in decent quality. In short take away the advantage of "stealing" the content.
Why the hell is it so hard for people to understand that we stand at the forefront of a world wide market, we use cheap labor from all over the place to get you cheaper items , but yet the companies reaping the profits complain it's not enough.
Gone is the pride this country had in making great products. And so goes our world dominance. It has happened in the past with great civilizations. We are no different , with the huge leaps and bounds computers brought to the world , it advanced the decline of our civilization, unfortunately our kids are to concerned with our "ip" and it is slowly destroying a generation. Much as rap has destroyed 2 generations now.
Such is a scary place to be.
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Mactron
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| AT&T to the rescue ?
I thought AT&T had this covered. 
»AT&T to Target Pirated Content
I can't think of a single show on NBC worth downloading. 
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TKJunkMail
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Re: More media hype
said by Modworks :p2p is far from 60-70% of all internet traffic. Here are very recent numbers:
»home.businesswire.com/portal/sit···sLang=en
After more than four years during which peer-to-peer (P2P) applications have overwhelmingly consumed the largest percentage of bandwidth on the network, HTTP (Web) traffic has overtaken P2P and continues to grow. Presently, as a result of streaming audio and video in Web downloads, HTTP is approximately 46% of all traffic on the network. P2P continues as a strong second place at 37% of total traffic. Newsgroups (9%), non-HTTP video streaming (3%), gaming (2%) and VoIP (1%) are the next widely used applications.
Breaking down application types within HTTP, the data reveals that traditional Web page downloads (i.e. text and images) represent 45% of all Web traffic. Streaming video represents 36% and streaming audio 5% of all HTTP traffic. YouTube alone comprises approximately 20% of all HTTP traffic, or nearly 10% of all traffic on the Internet. If you add the 37% of p2p with the 36% streaming video, they aren't far off. And let's face it, the majority of p2p and streaming video is pirated.
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tiger72
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Re: NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it
said by TKJunkMail :The complaint is legitimate and the FCC should seriously consider it while examining submitted comments about creating rules on the network neutrality docket at the FCC. Any rules concerning network neutrality that the FCC may eventually adopt after examining the comments must not institutionalize the rampant copyright infringement that now takes place on the internet. A huge part of what the US exports is intellectual property and allowing the theft of that property will seriously affect the US economy and balance of trade with other nations. If the IP industry wants to protect its property, then it needs to come up with either a method to protect its property, or change its business model to fit the 21st century.
The Federal Government should not begin forcing ISP's to become law-enforcement agents - at their own cost - because of another poorly thought out Federal law.
Daddy gubment's job isn't to protect every industry which doesn't want to evolve with the rest of us.
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metachronos
join:2005-01-26
Green Bay, WI | Lame
The only good show NBC has is The Office, or House if you count it. |
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hopeflicker
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Long Beach, CA | reply to ARGONAUT
Re: What's next?
"hijacked by bandwidth hogs."
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Bandwidth hogs has nothing to do with this. WTF?
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TKJunkMail
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Re: NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it
said by BosstonesOwn :Here is a revolutionary thought ! Help the customer get what they want at a price the market will bare and profit. Except as is very apparent here in post after post - that price is zero!!! Most of the pirates want everything for free.
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TraderJoe
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And how can they prove that the content is in violation of any law. Nowadays lots of people use encrypted p2p apps (I use GigaTribe: »www.gigatribe.com ), and lots of people are also doing this, so soon no ISP or agency will be able to detect what people are exchanging...and they certainly cannot prove what content is being exchanged over an encrypted network. NBC needs to mind its own bee's nest! |
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gaforces
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join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | reply to tiger72
Re: NBC complaint is legit and FCC should consider it
But it is changing! Lame reality shows and gambling! Aught to do wonders for long term profit ...
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