KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | No U-Verse for Midtown
... Just as well, it will suck anyway on a VDSL line. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | wha?
What? ATT would never do FTTH when it would be cheaper to do so than run FTTN/FTTC. Everyone here's told me that! |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | LOL The .PDF left out the RIAA/MPAA Monitoring
... While the .PDF mentions the NSA Monitoring offices, they forgot to include the new RIAA/MPAA content filtering nodes
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Poor people...
couldn't afford the services anyways  |
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GemSnake
Premium
join:2000-10-19
3rd layer
clubs:  | Hmmm...
"brownfield"... as in $hitfield? |
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Alakar
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored
join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Credit checks are
in place for Uverse already. If you have lousy credit, you won't be able to get the service even if it's available. If you have moderate credit a deposit maybe required.
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"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom; it is the arguments of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger |
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Amadeus
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join:2005-05-02
Miami, FL |  "fiber to the non-privileged" versus "fiber to the privilege
Yep that's exactly what it is. Screw att
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| In other words...
Move to a new neighborhood and you get good technology...
Stay in a historic and somewhat affluent neighborhood, like mine, and you get sucky technology...
ATT, just save yourself the trouble... Adopt a single standard like Verizon. You'll end up better off in the long run - fibre has lower maintenance costs than copper, easier to upgrade to increased bandwidth, etc. Instead you are bending to the will of a bunch of idiot investors who don't have a clue why fibre is better and who are only interested in short term gains, not long term viability.
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Prove it... |
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niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY | reply to GemSnake
Re: Hmmm...
Does brownfield mean --- places where people of COLOR live and Greenfield --- Places where people have alot of Green in their bank accounts!!! |
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GemSnake
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join:2000-10-19
3rd layer
clubs:
| I was gonna bring "color" into my original post, but decided not to, but you got my drift anyway 
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| Typical...
Typical DSLReports whining. Does it not make very obvious sense to install fiber in new developments where the ground is already dug up and where customers are more apt to buy your higher-end service? It's called "common sense."
You can complain about the VDSL choice all you want, and that's a perfectly valid discussion. But these constant "cherry-picking" accusations are just asinine. Any business with any semblance of intelligence is going to deploy first where it's cheapest and most profitable. That's Business 101.
Sorry to have to keep reminding you that you're not AT&T's charity cases. They're in it for the money, just like you are in your job.
Adam |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
| said by Alpine  :Typical DSLReports whining. Does it not make very obvious sense to install fiber in new developments where the ground is already dug up and where customers are more apt to buy your higher-end service? It's called "common sense." One user submits this jab at AT&T (pdf) that calls this "fiber to the non-privileged" versus "fiber to the privileged."
Or more to the point:
One user submits this jab at AT&T (pdf) that calls this "fiber to existing developments" versus "fiber to new developments."
But when a socialist sees someone getting something they want, but either can't pay for or won't get until later, they break out the old complaint that we deserve everything the rich have and we should get it for free by taxing the rich.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to bogey780
Re: wha?
Notice how it took Ed leaving to get FTTH plans even started at the company?
Me thinks At&t may have seen the light. Yes pun was intended and yes I am sure that big Ed waited on this so he could get a huge stack of stock paper , he could sell before the investors smacked them down for fiber.
Oh one more thing , didn't At&t claim FTTH was to expensive for them ? Oh must have changed. We will be seeing another case of redlining and the articles to follow I suppose.
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to Alpine
Re: Typical...
Even in the fiber serviced areas by AT&T they're still not getting any faster speeds than what they offer currently with DSL. It's still capped. The only difference in the service will be is the actual wire to the neighborhood and the house. |
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| said by hottboiinnc :Even in the fiber serviced areas by AT&T they're still not getting any faster speeds than what they offer currently with DSL. It's still capped. The only difference in the service will be is the actual wire to the neighborhood and the house. That's what I hear, too, so it's apparently true for now. Kind of lame, actually, but they're going to have to do something with it eventually. At least it won't face the same bandwidth hurdles for UVerse that the copper lines are facing..
Adam |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| They won't have to do anything with the services really. AT&T only claims you need the speeds they offer. So as long as they have customers who will use that speed they're not going to offer anything faster if they don't have to.
Qwest has fiber areas as well and they cap their speeds to their DSL offerings. They just don't see the need to raise the speeds. |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | copper.... i still want fiber
hrmm... wonders how they will handle apts |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: wha?
AT&T already has FTTH in some areas. FTTH is too expensive also...unless it's in a greenbuild. Soemthing they've always said. |
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niagara_man1
join:2007-05-02
Niagara Falls, NY | reply to GemSnake
Re: Hmmm...
yep yep |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | reply to Alpine
Re: Typical...
Shhhh...how dare you point out the obvious?!? |
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