drmorley
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join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
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Faster installs would be nice. I've been hearing about this product for about three years and they still haven't installed it yet.
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | but but it is about the bandwith
how else are you going to deliver phone, tv, and internet at an acceptable level |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Pair bonding.
Fibre is not always needed. Cable is delivered with a single copper strand  |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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join:2001-02-15
Wichita, KS | For the last many thousand feet only. Fiber to the node.  |
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Enlightener
join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | reply to ninjatutle
You are joking right? Saying a star topology with an individual bandwidth of 12MHZ can do the same thing that a bus topology with a bandwidth of 2GHZ can just because they both share the element copper is insane. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | reply to ninjatutle
ROFL !!!!  |
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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said by ninjatutle  :Cable is delivered with a single copper strand Isn't cable something like 10x thicker than a phone wire? Exactly why a cable connections can continue pretty long distances and phone lines can only get... what? 3 miles max? |
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | reply to robbob340
Exactly, so can that per read as you supporting at&t's design? |
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | reply to jimbo2150
The lines themself arnt the issue, its the technology sending it down the line. |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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Wichita, KS | Tell that to people with 60 year old lines, that wont hold a dsl connection.
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bmn
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said by ninjatutle :Pair bonding. Fibre is not always needed. Cable is delivered with a single copper strand That can provide up to 1Gbps of bandwidth conservatively... Phone cable can't provide anywhere NEAR that.
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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No, not at all. Fiber to the home is the only way to go. If ATT was doing this now, they would not be "talking" about bandwidth upgrades, or "talking" about multiple HDTV streams. They would be doing, just like Verizon is.
EDIT=I was just using the example of Fiber to the node as a response to "fiber is not always needed"
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MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
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| Of course they are downplaying it.
The issue here is lack of bandwidth. Why no multiple HD streams? not enough bandwidth. Why max speeds of 6/1mbps on the internet side? Not enough bandwidth. Why crappy compression that transmits at a much lower bitrate than the competition? Not enough bandwidth.
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robbob340
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Wichita, KS | Alot of people are seeing sync rates upwards of 90-100 mbps, correct? Should that be sufficient for a better product? (Higher speeds, multiple HD)
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MarkyD
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| said by robbob340 :Alot of people are seeing sync rates upwards of 90-100 mbps, correct? Should that be sufficient for a better product? (Higher speeds, multiple HD) those people are mostly right on top of a VRAD. AT&T can't deliver that consistently across their entire UVERSE footprint. Not to mention, I'm not so sure their nodes could handle everyone actually getting that kind of throughput.
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to bmn
Re: but but it is about the bandwith
What provider is going to give you 1Gbps? And you want that at DSL prices right |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here
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double post |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to bmn
But the frequency limits of cable are spread across multiple users back to the node. That's why FTTC is quite promising. All the benefits of FTTP without the premise issues. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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Re: Of course they are downplaying it.
ATT is conservative in their product. Just like with their 3M speeds. A lot of their platforms could support it from the start. They wanted to do a shakedown run before trying to hit the throttle.
I can see them upping the speeds progressively as time passes. |
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robbob340
K.U. Sweet 16
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Wichita, KS | reply to MarkyD
Thanks for the info, I wonder how much bandwidth they give to a node, I will check the U-Verse forum.
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