markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO | If people are still getting spam..
They deserve it.
In this day and age, no reason you should be getting spam still. I think all that spam is filling empty email accounts long forgotten. |
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computerman0
join:2006-07-19
Houston, TX | LOL
What else could one do with that much bandwidth |
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MooJohn
join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
 ·Windstream
| reply to markopoleo
Re: If people are still getting spam..
It's not the people receiving spam that we should care about. It's the idiots that are responding to it and buying whatever it's got for sale who are perpetuating the problem.
If nobody bought from a spam or even clicked on it, it'd cease to be a useful tool. Instead, there are just enough dumbasses willing to click on an "enhancement" advertisement, stock tip, or replica watch ad that the spammers are willing to keep at it. |
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FicmanS
Premium
join:2005-01-11
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Holy Smokes...
Ouch...
Now there's some bandwidth that could be put to better use... |
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Mike
Premium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs:  | reply to markopoleo
Re: If people are still getting spam..
That's not the point.
It's all the bandwidth and shady practices that is behind this industry driving the price of service up. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Verizon may be King of Spam
But look who's in 2nd and 3rd places: TTNet.tr and
TPNet.pl, two of the ISPs with the greatest number
of botnet zombies (and thus clueless users). |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
|  No surprise here...
"Verizon would rather have as little contact with customers as possible. Customer contact is expensive. "
And their CSRs show it every time you call. 
Verizon: King of Spam
No surprise here...
VZs network is full of crap. Spam, Botnets, compromised machines with VZ IP address constantly banging on my router. The log is pages a day.  They don't care and that's the way it is. 
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well. |
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expert007
join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY | Upstream vs Downstream (or the other way around)
Any educated guesses on what the percentage of upstream traffic to downstream traffic might be? Just what might 'overwhelmingly downstream" be? |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to MooJohn
Re: If people are still getting spam..
You don't have to respond, you just have to have an image load or HTML embed load, and that let's them know what IP (and domain) to hammer, troll, scan...
Yes, computer buyers (major %) have no idea that:
-The PC they just bought has OS that is 6 months behind in patches.
-The PC they bought a few years ago needs updates and not jsut to the OS
-Just because you are on the net, doesn't mean you shouldn't own a router w/firewall
-Have no clue about BCC lists, forwarding or email procedures
-Don't supervise their children that do have net access
So ISPs take the passive route (aka cheapest) and leave it to the user to filter.
"Spammers need to be executed. And posted on YouTube." -some facist |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
 ·Charter Pipeline
| reply to Mike
I thought the news post is stating just the opposite.
Apparently, the outbound bandwidth is the least of Verizon's concerns since the symmetrical connection is mostly inbound, rather than outbound.
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:: my trivial ramblings :: |
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Jim Gurd
Premium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI | Major improvement
I noticed that Comcast was number 45 on that list. Considering the number of users they have they seem to have really cleaned up a lot of the problem customers. In the past I know they were in the top 10 of spam sources. |
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Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19
66308
| Same reason phone& mailing companies loved telemarketers &
Junkmail.
THOSE F*CKERS MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT.
The phone companies loved telemarketers.
The reason Verizon gets away with it is because they MAKE MONEY from it.
If the organizers of the internet would have some BALLS they would threaten to BAN verizon from the internet alltogether.
The telephone companies are fuc*ing EVIL. |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | In tresting how this story didnt come out when they got the pc world award lol. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to markopoleo
Re: If people are still getting spam..
said by markopoleo  :They deserve it. In this day and age, no reason you should be getting spam still. I think all that spam is filling empty email accounts long forgotten. Wrong as usual, thanks for playing.
I did an experiment. A blank comcast email and a blank Google gmail account. Both had spam in less than a week. Not one thing was sent from either account nor was it used anywhere to sign up for anything. These were entered and left.
Try again.  |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| another reason
Another reason why Verizon can't raise broadband rates to their customers. Spam is something on balance Verizon profits from. Although it need be said again and again..
DO NOT FEED THE SPAMMERS!! DO NOT BUY ANYTHING THEY SELL OR SOLICIT WEBSITES WHO SELL ADVERTISING!! That they spammers will shrivel up and die. This is directed at the .01% of morons who actually are their customers. |
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NJxxxJon
something good. or your mom.
Premium
join:2005-10-22
00000
| Here, Try this.
I am on verizon DSL and I dont use the verizon.net address. Simple. Gmail and Fotki FT frickin Win. 
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\\"I don't have a girlfriend, I just know a girl that would get mad if I said that." \\Mitch Hedberg |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| reply to cableties
Re: If people are still getting spam..
But they dont just spam for the hell of it. They do it because it makes them MONEY, so if idiots stop buying the crap there will be no MONEY in it for the spammer. This would not apply to virus propagation of course however, since they dont care if you buy any penis enlargement pills or not. |
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internetspec
join:2007-04-19
Calgary, AB | reply to moonpuppy
So what you are saying is that Google & Comcast are selling your e-mail address? Sorry, I'm not buying it. I think it's more likely that your machine is compromised. |
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MacTire
join:2007-06-22
Morristown, TN
| reply to moonpuppy
It has a lot to do with easy to guess email account names. I have had an Yahoo account for 3 years and have had only 2 spam messages in this time. It is the same with picking names as it is passwords; don't use word or word-number combo. Use a phrase instead. |
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alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  Web Mail & ISP Blockers!
I don't use computer based eMail clients anymore, like Outlook. I have two eMail addresses for various reasons, Earthlink and Hotmail. Both have very good Spam Filters, and I have them set to the Highest Level, only people in My Address Book get in. Everything else goes to a Suspect Folder on the ISP Server where I can Report, Delete, or Accept. This works excellent, nothing touches my computer, and I only get a few a day in the Suspect Folder. The ones I Report, hopefully will shut them down. |
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