amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| says it all..
"reporter complains about "digital ghosting or smearing" and occasional outages"
..says enough for me right there. and people still have this notion that if something is "digital" than it's "better" in all ways...
Sorry, no TV through my phone line anytime soon, even if they did have it here... NTSC (or better) needs REAL bandwidth and not some frail attempt at using a 50 year old rotten phone line. |
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johndoe303
join:2003-01-01
Boca Raton, FL
1 edit | Lesser of two evils
NEITHER! I've dealt with ATT before.. I also had BS DSL before it went ATT.. Long story short, to hell with both of them.
As for my current situation with Comcrap I'm dealing with never ending slowdowns all throughout the day with no end in sight. |
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | ..
dunno know yet haven't tried uverse yet and till its released suck with comcast -.- ... would do dish but no where to put it |
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guardfrog
join:2004-08-27
Dallas, TX
| Picture quality?
Sure...he mentions "occassional" smearing and says it's a "minor" issue.
But he also says, "The aspect that most impressed me as a TV watcher was the picture quality. My Toshiba television has never had a picture that good. In fact, I've never seen a picture that good on any tube TV, even one using digital cable." |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to johndoe303
Re: Lesser of two evils
Had a chance to use Commiecast, but it was VERY pricey - even for basic service (installation fees, digital basic was $60 + $100 installation fee + remote rental, etc, etc)
AT&T U-verse is still not complete here in my area (VRAD doesn't have power yet), pricing is competitive
DirecTv - works for me. |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | reply to guardfrog
Re: Picture quality?
Here all the channels look good. When I had Comcast digital, the locals were unbearable, channel changing was slow and the boxes were fugly. |
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radougherty
join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX | What a joke
I love his comment attractive to those with high-definition TVs , what HD owner would want only one stream into the home at a time? |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
 ·Teliax VOIP
 ·WestPAnet Inc.
·WestPAnet Inc. CA..
| Me. No really, I just got an HD tv for my living room. I do not have any more HD tvs in the house and probably would not be doing much recording of HD while I am watching an HD stream.
But, for TV (not that I am in the area of ANY real cable company) I think sat is and always will be the way. Yep, DTV, DSL and Vonage and I am done. Now, in 10 years I bet my area still has the same offerings... |
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| I only have one HD tv in my house and have no plans of putting one in my bedroom or my kids bedrooms for a LOOOOOONG time. So one HD stream is fine for me considering that most HD content is crap anyways. I am using Dish Network for my HD. Give it a few years and i might need more than one stream at a time but until then i'm happy with one stream. |
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radougherty
join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by shoan  :I only have one HD tv in my house and have no plans of putting one in my bedroom or my kids bedrooms for a LOOOOOONG time. So one HD stream is fine for me considering that most HD content is crap anyways. I am using Dish Network for my HD. Give it a few years and i might need more than one stream at a time but until then i'm happy with one stream. So you have no plans to record one HD channel while watching another with their DVR? |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to keyboard5684
Yes, but most people I know with just one HDTV want to record at least two primtime shows at once on their DVR.
I realize there's a group of you out there that thumb your nose up at network programming, but we're talking about "general" uses, and the ratings say that's what the vast majority of people watching TV are tuning into.
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
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1 edit | reply to radougherty
how dare you point out the obvious! don't you see that shoan wants to live in ignorance? |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to amungus
Re: says it all..
AT&T has done wonders on their picture quality from their lab tests, but it's still not enough.
They need to realize that iptv does not scale well. You can't really over subscribe it like cable and fios can. Capacity is a premium and they need to realize that ftth is the only solution to the problem.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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Its hot out
@comcast.net
| Like em, love em or hate em..
any one of them for that matter, the NICE thing about all of them is they represent CHOICE for we consumers...
and COMPETITION amongst themselves.
And, that's just not a bad thing all the way around.
While uverse certainly isn't "all that" today, the fact of the matter is it does present some interesting potential.
If they were to be able to make the bandwidth flexible in that if you're not watching TV it could be utilized for internet speeds instead, that certainly could be very competitive against the cable industry. And, multiple hdtv streams are something that can apparently be accomplished with bonding of the lines.
No, it's not FTTH..but it's something they can roll out quicker across the country. And, in turn, something that can later be expanded upon to include FTTH.
In addition, let's face it, someone as big as AT&T rolling this out quickly CAN have a positive effect on what we cable customers are paying, namely in forcing the cable industry to be more price and feature competitive.
Cable services ARE priced too high and Uverse IS attractively priced. That alone could be beneficial to everyone whether you take the service or not.
I say..bring em on. All of them. Let them fight for our business...
and, may the best company win it. |
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Tobalik
@sbcglobal.net
| Both suck
I have had both companies in the Houston area. They both suck big time and we need more competition to force them to pick up their game.
The Comcast/ex-TW premium plan was 8Mbs down and 512Kbps up and I like the higher uploads of Uverse at 6/1. As far as the TV service is concerned Comcast comes out ahead because of the dual HDTV stream recording capability and slightly better quality but ATT has cheaper overall prices for internet and TV combos.
BTW the Comcast rep made no concessions whatsoever when I called to cancel my service and informed them of the better prices that ATT was offering.
I also think Comcast will be offering faster internet speeds before ATT does. If they go up to 10/2 it might be a good reason to switch.It will be a while before ATT gets their bonding act together.
Notes of interest:
1.The first Uverse installer did not know jack shit and did stuff the wrong way. On calling to get someone to come in to fix up the mess I got the usual bullshit I was used to with TW/Comcast. Techs did not show, huge appointment ranges etc.
2. I have 27/2 coming into my house. How difficult is it for ATT to give me all the bandwidth when the TV is not in use? I am paying for it anyway. |
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smurf1
Premium
join:2004-03-18
Anderson, IN
·AT&T U-Verse
| att uverse
I don't know what you are watching; but in the eight weeks i have had uverse here in anderson ,indiana.I have not had any outages no ghosting no smearing of colors.I am very satisfied with uverse.It is a much better deal than what I was getting with Insight cable. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
1 edit | reply to Its hot out
Re: Like em, love em or hate em..
quote:
the NICE thing about all of them is they represent CHOICE for we consumers...
Choice for consumers in neighborhoods deemed worthy, anyway. |
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alg
Just a shot away
Premium
join:2001-04-10
Houston, TX
clubs:
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
|  reply to djrobx
Re: What a joke
said by djrobx :I realize there's a group of you out there that thumb your nose up at network programming, but we're talking about "general" uses, and the ratings say that's what the vast majority of people watching TV are tuning into. Personally I think it's funny that the same folks that brag about owning big screen HDTVs are the same ones that gripe that they are too good to watch the "drivel" on TV.  |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
1 edit | reply to Karl Bode
Re: Like em, love em or hate em..
Very true.
At least its getting deployed rather quickly. The jury's still out on its success. Here in Valencia, I'm still waiting (Deployment was May 1, 2007)... still not available. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: says it all..
said by BosstonesOwn :...Capacity is a premium and they need to realize that ftth is the only solution to the problem. True. It's all about bandwidth. I just can't see this being a true competitor to FTTH or Cable. Sure glad I'm VZs foot print. I can look forward to FIOS... well may in 10 years, if ever. 
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