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Comments on news posted 2007-06-26 18:17:14: New York City's Broadband Advisory Committee, seemingly in a perpetual state of discussion since creation, continues their debate over whether broadband should be considered a utility and doled out to all city residents, possibly for free. ..

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Noah Vail
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Um.

Is Gas Broadband not Vaporware?

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ninjatutle
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Worry about broadband later, fix smell and rats 1st

If they had a need to be online, they're already online.

bmn
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Broadband still a luxury...

It is WAY to early in the game to be classifying it a utility. In ten or twenty years, yeah, it probably will need to be a utility since the world is becoming more connected.

Right now though, no.
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MrMoody
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reply to Noah Vail
Re: Um.

Ha, next they'll have BGL - Broadband over Gas Line


Karl Bode
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They already have, though they've been pretty quiet so far this year after all of those ridiculous promises in 2006:

»Broadband in Gas Lines


TKJunkMail
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BB not a utility ....

debate over whether broadband should be considered a utility and doled out to all city residents, possibly for free.
.... but even if it could be considered a utility, why should it be free. Electricity and water isn't free.
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Mactron
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

... but even if it could be considered a utility, why should it be free. Electricity and water isn't free.
Electricity from Atomic Energy was suppose to be un-metered & free...
Oh, that's right, that didn't work out so well either.
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MrMoody
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join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC
reply to Karl Bode
Re: Um.

Well, prop my mouf open an' use me for a waveguide. I missed that.

jersey7

join:2007-05-14
reply to bmn
Re: Broadband still a luxury...

I disagree. Broadband is becoming a much needed utility right now. At least it should be in the wealthiest nation in the world...


tshirt
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reply to Karl Bode
Re: Um.

It actually could work.... as a last mile OPTION, or let's say a last half mile option, it avoids tearing up the streets (and other utilities) to get from an ISP/backbone provider to the building, from there it's ( or should be) up to the building owner to wire from the meter to the point( or points in multi user dwelling/businesses) of use.
while BBoG deployment would be subsidized by the gas company (by eliminating meter reader positions )
there is no reason for the public to finace/subsidize the provider (gas company and partners) or subsidize the building owners retrofit.
What governemnt can do is set current and long term/long term planning standards for regulation of BB providers (irregardless of delivery method) and for building owners to allow reasonably return on their investment, if they provide reasonable service, at a reasonable price. (you sign a 20 year lease and then landlord mentions the $$$$ "Fee" increase for getting the advertised "broadband availablity" from the ground to your 5th floor apt/business )

keyboard5684

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Youngsville, PA
reply to jersey7
Re: Broadband still a luxury...

China? They already have it.


ARGONAUT
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reply to Noah Vail
Re: Um.

It's all "bla bla" until it happens.

Kearnstd
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reply to Mactron
Re: BB not a utility ....

not to mention here in the US we will never see any more atomic energy since its taboo due to tinfoil hat types.
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ARGONAUT
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join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN
Yucca Mountain can only hold so much.

Plus that would make a great target for "the black hats" wouldn't it?


MuniNYCFbr

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A proposal for Municipal fiber optics for NYC (dont know what extent yet) for $59 for 100/100 speeds is being proposed.

raye
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Perpetual state of uncontrollable flatulence

Are these folks actually on the city payroll?


jslik
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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: BB not a utility ....

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

debate over whether broadband should be considered a utility and doled out to all city residents, possibly for free.
.... but even if it could be considered a utility, why should it be free. Electricity and water isn't free.
I do agree there. Costs have to be picked up by somebody, and I don't think folks are going to sign up for some ad-filled access scheme or higher rates for other utilities to float free broadband. Plus the incumbents would pitch holy heck.
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robertfl
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Mary Esther, FL
Rural Areas first

Let's get this in rural areas first. NYC has broadband already. I know people who live in VA who can't get it from Verizon.

We need to make TRUE broadband available to all where it will be profitable and affordiable.

-Rob

jbskaggs

join:2004-10-15
Hickory, NC
reply to TKJunkMail
Re: BB not a utility ....

I disagree and agree. While broadband is a utility, it does not need to be given free.. It should be made at a price that people can afford.


fcisler
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join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY

run the MEDIUM

Government subsidized fiber to everyone....

"Pick your provider" for the customer - with NO government "associated" providers. Flat rate "line charge" for the medium, and then - at the provider - their charge. Kind of like a local loop....but (and i love/hate the word) "regulated".

Lets see if that won't bring some competition....

Oh...one can dream...there's also so many flaws in that plan...but it's a general idea which keeps rolling around in my head....if everyones wired (and not wired to a company) and can chose WHICH provider they want....
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