ColorBASIC
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1 edit | Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
My heart bleeds for the bloodsuckers at the RIAA. It's the iTunes store being, I believe the #3 music retailer, not the iPhone giving the phone so-called clout.
The flat rate $1/song model of iTunes is good for consumers and the RIAA has been fighting Apple to try and get tiered pricing for quite a while with Jobs simply flipping them the bird.
I messed around with a friend's iPhone last night and it's way cool. I'm definately going to stop by the Apple store some time next week and pick one up.
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kapil
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Chicago, IL
| Oh Come On!
This was the one place, I thought, where I could escape the iNews.
There we people lined up for miles to look at the grilled cheese sandwich they thought looked like the virgin mary also...but we don't celebrate those idiots. Why are the iDweebs any different?
In fact, many of the iFools are probably the type of smug assholes who made fun of the grilled cheese nutjobs...but to wait in line for a phone, well, that's just okay.
Seriously, it's a goddamn phone. A phone. |
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WileEC
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join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
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| credibility?
It looks to me that most of the "reviews" so far are from apple fanbois. They have very little credibility in my eyes.
I wonder what will happen in a few months when the average iTard who spent $600 on that phone, an amount equivalent to a car payment (or two) or quite a lot of groceries, etc. realizes that they spent $600 on a phone. Being that they were dumb enough to spend the money in the first place, will they even realize it?
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WileEC
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join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
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Re: Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
What makes you think Apple is any better than the RIAA?
Apple is a for-profit company (and woah, really for-profit considering how much they hose the average Mac/iPud/iBone owner for). 2nd, not everyone subscribes to their sales model. I personally would NEVER buy from iTunes. I have a Rio Karma, probably one of the best MP3 players ever (not that any Apple fanboi would agree or even have knowledge of what a Rio Karma is) - point is that not everyone owns an iPud. Many people have many players from many companies. Why should Apple have any control over what I do?
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MattBC
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join:2006-02-01
Victoria, BC
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Re: Oh Come On!
You're right, it is just a phone, and it's a new one. You were an iDiot if you thought you could escape news about it on here.
Matt 
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA
1 edit | reply to ColorBASIC
I don't want to spoil your party...
But the RIAA gets 70 cents of every 99 cents spent for a song on iTunes.
The artist/singer get 7 cents to split. |
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cline3621
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Re: Oh Come On!
said by kapil  :Seriously, it's a goddamn phone. A phone. Kapil, this is my sentiment exactly. Well put and spot on.  |
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firephoto
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Re: credibility?
said by WileEC :I wonder what will happen in a few months when the average iTard who spent $600 on that phone, an amount equivalent to a car payment (or two) or quite a lot of groceries, etc. realizes that they spent $600 on a phone. Being that they were dumb enough to spend the money in the first place, will they even realize it? And I wonder what your iTard will do when they don't spend $600 on the phone and look at that same $600 they won't have in a few months. In this country we're currently in a pattern of earn a little and spend a little more. We are taught it, the television says we need drugs and cars and pizza cookers. You don't want a good car, you just want a new one every 2-3 years. If it breaks, fine, we take it back or throw it away. We don't want quality, we want simple, easy, lack of thought is a bonus. We want to work at some crappy job because we have to not because we want to.
I'm pretty confident that joe-nascar isn't dipping into the keystone fund to buy an iPhone.
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Mauricio9
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Vancouver, BC
| reply to WileEC
A phone that does WiFi, music and video. And email and web browsing with an interface that actually works. It's nice to see the Apple bashers steaming because they don't have anything to latch on to. Drink the Kool-Aid. Get an iLife.
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peter_m
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Canada, QC
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Re: Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
said by WileEC :What makes you think Apple is any better than the RIAA? The RIAA regularly sue deceased people and single mothers for no apparent reason. RIAA wants your bank account to be deducted every time you hum a song.
Apple want to make money in exchange for a unique, well designed and functional product. Apple sells DRM free music so you can stick it where ever you want  |
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texans20
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| Not All Good
Not that I care about the iPhone, but it's hard to avoid it today online. Looking around, the initial reaction can be summed up in one word, "meh".
The Apple fanbois are throwing up all sorts of excuses. Either "I don't use that missing feature" or "Just wait for a software update".
At least on my free phone I can change the voicemail alert tone, as I understand it you can't do that on the iPhone. What a basic feature.
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Mactron
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| iDental work :(
My poor brother in law... 
The guy is broken hearted. The kids need dental work. 
No iPhone for him.
Super nice guy, but alas, a dedicated Apple fanboy. 
I try not hold it against him.
Have fun with your new toy Guys n Gals. 
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twid
join:2001-03-21
Santa Clara, CA
| reply to texans20
Re: Not All Good
Uh, you're reading different reviews than I am, I guess. Looking at »techmeme.com the reviews are almost universally 4- or 5- stars, with only a few minor quibbles.
It's OK to not like a phone with good reviews, or to not like a movie with good reviews, but to deny that the iPhone is getting almost-universally good reviews while also talking about "apple fanbois" is, well, a little weird. |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
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| reply to Mauricio9
Re: credibility?
said by Mauricio9 :Drink the Kool-Aid. Get an iLife. No, you see, here's the thing. I have a life. NOT an iLife. I don't care about web browsing in a cafe among other iNerds, virgins and people lacking social skills and lives. You want to spend $600 on an over-hyped, mediocre device? Go right ahead. Steve Jobs and Co, myself and anyone with a clue about spending, worthwhile investments, and life in general are laughing all the way to the iBank.
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peter_m
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Canada, QC
1 edit | reply to cline3621
Re: Oh Come On!
Well you can say that of just about anything successful. In summer times you can often see a line-up of 20 people for a small dirty, uncomfortable restaurant you can find here: »www.schwartzsdeli.com/history_eng.html Heck, the service can pass as acceptable on a good day.
Some might say it's just a goddamn meat sandwich... A say it's a goddamn good one! |
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WileEC
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join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY
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| reply to peter_m
Re: Awe, poor RIAA having trouble gouging customers
said by peter_m :The RIAA regularly sue deceased people and single mothers for no apparent reason. RIAA wants your bank account to be deducted every time you hum a song. The RIAA has every right to defend their intellectual property. People want to share copyrighted music online, which is against United States and international laws, they get caught, they get sued. Case closed.
said by peter_m :Apple sells DRM free music so you can stick it where ever you want Apple sells DRM free music that (1) costs more than non-drm music and (2) contains your personal information in an effort to keep people from trading it online.
said by peter_m :Apple want to make money in exchange for a unique, well designed and functional product. As far as well-designed, that is easily debatable and based on opinion. How is an iBone well designed when it lacks basic features found on most inexpensive modern cell phones such a voice dialing (a feature I use ALL THE TIME), changeable ring tones, replaceable battery, etc? Sorry, but its all iHype and smart people aren't buying into it.
Anyone stupid enough to THROW AWAY $600 on a pretty CELL PHONE is an iTard.
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WALL_E
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| You'll be taken more seriously if you refrain from using childish name-replacement.
It's not even that I disagree with you (which I do, but that is beside the point), but make your point in a mature manner. As soon as many people read your comments on the "iBone", much of what you have to say becomes irrelevant.
If the iPhone, iPod and iTunes store are not well-suited to what's important to you, then by all means use what works. No reasonable Apple fan (and most are more reasonable than you expect) will care. Buy what works for you.
I'm an Apple fan, and I find myself recommending non-Apple products to people all the time if what Apple has to offer is not suited to their needs.
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Dream Killer
Graveyard Shift
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| Modular is the way to go!
I like iPhone and would love to get one. I just don't like things that have a lot of integration, which is what Apple is doing with the iPhone. I like my media player and phone separate. Plus the iPhone's better features requires either WiFi or a cellphone signal, which are useless in NYC's subway system. |
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PhoenixDown
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs: | Any sales numbers yet?
I'm really curious to see how many new, non-att, customers this brought in.
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vick04
join:2006-08-06
South Richmond Hill, NY
| reply to Dream Killer
A list of iPhone dissapointments.
1. Bluetooth is ONLY good for connecting a headset. That's it.
2. There is no file browser on the device at all. Data must be organized (if at all) in the appropriate application.
3. The camera is a simple application that has ONE button: the shutter. Pictures come out okay on the device, but nothing too fancy on a monitor, especially if it was an attempt at a macro shot.
4. SIM card is damn near impossible to open, if at all. I didn't look into it extensively.
5. Web browser is slow, even over WLAN. Even the simple OneList web app that was created takes around 20 seconds to load over WLAN. You can not highlight, cut, copy, or paste and text from a website, and you can not save any images you find from a website either. The only nice thing about it is the tabbed browsing, which crashed on me when I went to Engadget and YouTube on two tabs. This is the only application that allows you to use the keyboard in landscape mode.
6. The keyboard sucks. It gets slightly better after the iPhone "learns" you, as the employees said, but even then, it's not a device you can use with one hand comfortably, much less without looking.
7. You can only send one picture at a time in an email.
8. No custom ringtones (yet, as we were being told) and the alert tones can not be changed whatsoever.
9. The default ringtones are incredibly lame.
10. The only form of customization outside of a lame default ringtone is the wallpaper, which you'll only see when you need to unlock the device or when you get a phone call.
11. "Picture pinching" or using two fingers to zoom on any content is certainly fun to play with, but not practical whatsoever. This operation depends solely on using the device with two hands.
12. No document editor or native viewer. You can not store documents on the device to be viewed, they can only be viewed as attachments when they're sent to your in an email.
13. Visual voicemail is laggy and reacts about the same way as pushing the fast forward and rewind buttons on traditional voicemail systems. The only advantage is for those that get that many voicemail messages a day that they need to sort them according to priority.
14. NO games. None.
15. No voice dialing.
16. No speed dialing (which can be made up by the "quick list", but getting to that quick list isn't as fast as holding a single key on a real keypad).
17. No video.
18. No MMS.
19. It's still 4GB for $500 and 8GB for $600
20. It only takes around 2 hours to explore every menu without any options for expandability except to scrounge around for new web apps that will load slowly and nowhere near as smoothly as the native apps.
taken from
»www.howardforums.com/showthread.···=1190824
The iphone looks like it was aimed for people that have never used a cell phone before? WTF |
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