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Comments on news posted 2007-07-05 10:42:49: Two years ago we profiled the rural Massachusetts towns of Shutesbury and Leverett, who have long been trying to get broadband from anyone -- but aren't deemed profitable to serve by Comcast or Verizon. ..

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ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA

My neighbors started a WISP

It's not rocket science.


pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD

said by ColorBASIC:

It's not rocket science.
It also goes to show you that if people aren't willing to invest their own time, resources and energy into something that someone else isn't going to provide, then they will remain with nothing.
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nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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It ain't just rural

hell, I live in the DC-Maryland metro area and I can only get cable - no DSL, no FIOS. I have never been able to get DSL from bell atlantic/verizon and expect that I never will be able to get DSL - verizon just isn't interested in serving my high income area. I thought I would be getting FIOS soon, but now I am starting to doubt that.

It ain't just rural areas that have no broadband or no competition for broadband.


Scatcatpdx
Fur It Up

join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR

reply to ColorBASIC

Re: My neighbors started a WISP

Oh, my god having an entrepreneur supply broadband. No, we will have nothing to do with it. We just sit here and wait to Government to force Verizon to gimme Broadband. (Tongue firmly pressed in cheek)

Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to ColorBASIC
but you can bet if these towns wanted to run muni fiber that Verizon and Comcast would go crying to big daddy government that it needs to be stopped because it will impede on their services that they arent offering or planning to offer.
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kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL

reply to nasadude

Re: It ain't just rural

Ditto here in my suburban Chicago town. AT&T here can't make a business case for bringing DSL here anymore due to Comcast literally owning the market- something over 70% of households use them for internet. The village had been promised from (now) AT&T for years that DSL would be brought here, but recently have dropped deployment plans completely. Giving Comcast plenty of time to establish a deathgrip.

We are lucky to be a leading market for the rollout of Sprint's WiMax (2008). And the latest word from AT&T is they might reconsider deployment plans here Sprint manages to do well.

ignatiuskc

join:2006-02-13
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Mobile Broadband

Sprint has mobile broadband/EVDO in Shutesbury and Leverett.

Mobile broadband is the way to go if 1-2Mbps is good enough for you. When WiMAX comes, wired broadband will be so last century, except for those who want high bandwidth.

I dumped my cable modem earlier this year for EVDO.


Mactron
el Camino Real
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CM94sv

reply to Kearnstd

Re: My neighbors started a WISP

said by Kearnstd:

but you can bet if these towns wanted to run muni fiber that Verizon and Comcast would go crying to big daddy government that it needs to be stopped because it will impede on their services that they arent offering or planning to offer.
Right, that would be their first approach. It's cheaper.
If that doesn't work out so well, then VZ & Comcast will jump in with both feet and kill the Muni system as they did in Lompoc, Ca. Will this grassroots system stimulate VZ and/or Comcast to come in ? Probably not.
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

untapped military fiber

There is a vast array of untapped military fiber going into new england.. now if some towns could get together and negotiate for reselling some service that would strongly encourage backbone providers to develop new pipes in New England..

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to nasadude

Re: It ain't just rural

wow thats sad you think AT&T would be pushing for a chance to try and steal comcast customers with Uverse.
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dslwanter
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Niles, OH

Same thing with AT&T

U-Verse is launching and I know of many who can only get marginal DSL like myself or even worse no DSL at all.


ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA

reply to Kearnstd

Re: My neighbors started a WISP

said by Kearnstd:

but you can bet if these towns wanted to run muni fiber that Verizon and Comcast would go crying to big daddy government that it needs to be stopped because it will impede on their services that they arent offering or planning to offer.
No doubt.
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TheGhost
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Lake Forest, IL

reply to pnh102

said by pnh102:

said by ColorBASIC:

It's not rocket science.
It also goes to show you that if people aren't willing to invest their own time, resources and energy into something that someone else isn't going to provide, then they will remain with nothing.
The issue is, if they try to implement themselves, they have to worry about an industry response like Comcast and BellSouth did in Lafayette, or what at&t and Comcast did here in Illinois, or what Qwest did/is doing in Utopia land. The ILECs and cable companies don't want to provide service as it is not "profitable", but they also don't want the municipalities to do it themselves either.

satellite68

join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY

reply to pnh102

said by pnh102:

said by ColorBASIC:

It's not rocket science.
It also goes to show you that if people aren't willing to invest their own time, resources and energy into something that someone else isn't going to provide, then they will remain with nothing.
In that case, if the electric company refused to "deploy" in your area, would you start your own? How about a Ford dealership? Maybe a whole chain of Starbucks? McDonald's?

"just do it" is simplistic, jingoistic advice on this issue. I don't see you running your own cruise ship line, either-perhaps you just don't have the "time, resources and energy" to do so.


ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA

Talk about simplistic nonsense. No one in their right mind would compare starting a small wireless ISP to buying a Starbucks, Ford Dealer or McDonald's or even better a cruise line.

That's just stupid.
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Kearnstd
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Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to satellite68

said by satellite68:

said by pnh102:

said by ColorBASIC:

It's not rocket science.
It also goes to show you that if people aren't willing to invest their own time, resources and energy into something that someone else isn't going to provide, then they will remain with nothing.
In that case, if the electric company refused to "deploy" in your area, would you start your own? How about a Ford dealership? Maybe a whole chain of Starbucks? McDonald's?

"just do it" is simplistic, jingoistic advice on this issue. I don't see you running your own cruise ship line, either-perhaps you just don't have the "time, resources and energy" to do so.
the electric company thing happened for real, its why the Government implemented the Rural Electrification Act. part of which is why things like Hoover Dam and the TVA exist.
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MrMaster
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St Thomas, VI

reply to ignatiuskc

Re: Mobile Broadband

key word: sprint

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

reply to ignatiuskc
Leverett is all mountains, there's no way you get good signal in 75% of it. Many of the roads aren't even paved. There's one grocery/co-op store off of a treacherous mountain dirt road, where you have to pull over for opposite traffic. The Post-office, town-hall, crafts store, and church all share the same building in the "town center".

They're partly to blame for no Comcast though, as I believe they kept them out like 10 years ago. I lived there for a year when I was in college. We were lucky enough to be able to get a dish, although they had to come and install a giant pole in the yard to get it to work. We had no internet, because I refused to use dial-up at the time. (97-98')



PolarBear03
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reply to ColorBASIC

Re: My neighbors started a WISP

My internet comes from just that; one man (that's right, I said one single solitary male homosapien) started a WISP in three different small towns around here. He struck a deal with the P.U.D. to use their fat fiber pipe that was basically unused anyway, and erected a bunch of small towers. He now supplies internet to 95% of broadband-connected people around here. Even right in town where people can get Qwest/MSN DSL, most folks use the WISP as they would rather do business with a local guy than a large corporation in Colorado.
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Hooper
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Villanova, PA

Who Cares

How is this even news? Some two-bit masshole town can't get broadband. I guess it doesn't make sense to write about how 80% of the STATE of Iowa is a broadband black hole.

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