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Comments on news posted 2007-07-16 09:56:35: A new OECD report (pdf) compares the price of broadband among all OECD member countries. ..

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deadzoned
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join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA

Depressing.

It's pretty depressing of a report overall. We could be doing so much better if we were not so at the mercy of big business.

Note - I am not saying that it's totally to blame, but I think a large portion of blame falls at their feet, followed by the government for failing to regulate the market better.

I'm happy with what I have, but I sure wouldn't mind more!


canesfan2001

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL

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Did they include Bellsouth/AT&T?

I pay $37.95 for 1.5 Mbit/s...or about $25.30 per Mbit/s...that puts me out of the US "range" on this graphic.

The current price is lower ($32.95, yet still about $22 per Mbit/s) but I have an old discount I'm locked into that makes the overall phone bill cheaper.

And the "lite" tier is almost $27 per Mbit/s!
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Techie714

join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA

Dont Expect Change

There two things you can count on in the coming years in the U.S.

1. Slower broadband deployment due to cost & political corruption & the fact that unless VZ, TW, or ATT can nickel & dime every last cent out of you forget a fiber pipe. It's all about $$$ & unless thousands of people in that area can afford it forget it.

2. Alternative fuels, Americans myself included have no interest in this topic. We will just keep buying gas until it hits $6.00 a gallon & then maybe....just maybe we as a nation will wake up to alternative fuels.


BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by Techie714:

2. Alternative fuels, Americans myself included have no interest in this topic. We will just keep buying gas until it hits $6.00 a gallon & then maybe....just maybe we as a nation will wake up to alternative fuels.
Like what BS, like ethenol which is already making the cost of food go up because corn is being used for FUEL and not FOOD. And farmers that were growing other crops are growing corn spefically for ethenol? What good is saving a fricken quarter a gallon on fuel if you're food bill is 25% higher?


TechieZero
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Gibsonton, FL

LOL -- but but but...it's good for the ENVIRONMENT.



smjaz

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As a stockholder......

i expect them to charge as much as possible while meeting demand in the marketplace environment they are in. in japan or korea, perhaps pennies per mb is all they can get away with, but here in the US, if demand is being met, why lower the price?

skrupowies

join:2002-08-22
Bristol, CT

reply to deadzoned

Re: Depressing.

I suppose you are right. It does fall primarily at the feet of big business. Then again the other option would be to have the government run the telecom industry like they do in Japan. And seeing as how the government can't even run itself I don't think things would be as good as they are now if they did run it.

deadzoned
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Baton Rouge, LA

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Re: As a stockholder......

Meeting Demand?! Yours, as a stockholder, or what the "Marketplace Environment" actually wants as opposed to what you THINK it needs?


stomp357

join:2003-04-13
Lake Charles, LA

reply to Techie714

Re: Dont Expect Change

said by Techie714:

There two things you can count on in the coming years in the U.S.

2. Alternative fuels, Americans myself included have no interest in this topic. We will just keep buying gas until it hits $6.00 a gallon & then maybe....just maybe we as a nation will wake up to alternative fuels.
Corn based Ethanol is driving food prices up. Besides, I seen a report last night about how it requires almost as much fossil fuel to make the same amount of Ethanol. Ethanol is not gona replace fossil fuel use.

bogey780

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reply to deadzoned

Re: Depressing.

You can't legislate things to become cheaper than the cost to produce. Well you can...but you end up with producers producing less. Have people learned nothing from price controls?

New equipment for broadband is expensive. Most of these other country's never had a lot of legacy equipment to replace or to even maintain so them leapfrogging the US is a given. Not to mention the relative density.


Memyself

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Hogwash. Most europeans markets have been deregulated by the government, thereby fostering more competition. This has nothing to do with some kind of government run telecom business and has everything to do with the regulator doing its job, which is to foster competition.

People have a hard time seeing past their preconceived ideas apparently...



Scatcatpdx
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Apples and Oranges

I tired to download the report but it is too large. Still I see a slight of hand in this report. One cannot compare the effects of government regulation to that of free market investment in broadband.

The issue is the hidden cost of Government broadband since there report does not account taxes paid or cost of issuing bond that must be repaid. In addition there is the problem of lack of spending discipline in government where government tend to pay more for infrastructure than it needs to and for a system that has more capacity than people really need.

I also wonder if the report is rigged by ignoring the market for cheep lower speed broadband. I know many who feel 14.99 for 756K is enough.


CConverse

join:2006-01-31
Syracuse, NY

reply to TechieZero

Re: Dont Expect Change

And LOLOL guess what -- it's actually not because it takes more fossil fuels to produce a gallon of ethanol biofuel than it does to just put a gallon of regular in your tank. But don't let the Exxon Mobil -- Oops, I mean the gov't -- know you're onto them.


ColorBASIC
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Corona, CA

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Boy I really missed those daily "Why America sucks" articles

Welcome back Karl Bode See Profile!

BrotherJPW0

join:2003-11-27
Glen Ellyn, IL

reply to deadzoned

Re: Depressing.

$3.18 is decent!

FOLKS, Lets start looking at these three!!!
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bohn

join:2006-05-30
Scarborough, ON

Canada Raised Rates Sharply Socialism Is Very Wrong!

I'll tell you i've had a gut full of this country called Canada and its' commusist policies. It's so bad Rogers cable is useless for al but browsing the internet. Of course many sites are blocked because of Jewish issues in Canada (like i could care less)so you really can't even browse the internet. All p2p is blocked even encrypted traffic. No newsgroups not even text ones paid for by yourself newsgroups don't work and email may work on a good day. Ted Rogers had the nerve to raise rates 25 yes twenty five percent while the rest of the world saw a 17 percent decrease in the monthly internet rates.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

Leader of Innovation....

What's that saying.. We're the leader of innovation, but last for implementation.... Ah yes, that about sums it up in a nutshell.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

reply to bohn

Re: Canada Raised Rates Sharply Socialism Is Very Wrong!

Bohn, I know plenty of people in Canada and p2p / Bt aren't blocked. Your case is isolated. While many isps DO HAVE caps, they do not black the traffic....You sure have one melodramatic post....

bogey780

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reply to Memyself

Re: Depressing.

'People have a hard time seeing past their preconceived ideas apparently'

Yes, indeed. You have the preconceived notion that regulation makes the market better.

Goverment mandated competition doesn't help the market. We had a whole decade of regulatory created competition to prove that canard wrong.

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

So your contention is that government provided wire-line monopolies make the market better?

This market already has regulation, it just needs to be done properly. The question of more/less is hyperbole. We need more good regulation, and less bad regulation.


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