Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| Too good to be true?
Almost seems too good to be true. With as easy as it is to upgrade the HD, whats the catch? (mind you I have not looked at the tivo forum for details)
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alg
Just a shot away
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join:2001-04-10
Houston, TX
clubs: | How about TTG??!!
To hell with all the other stuff, give S3 boxes TTG already.
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA | the remotes blow
time to make something more ergonomic. |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | Cheaper power supply
Does this mean that adding an external HD will not be possible? |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | Staying with the S2
I'm staying with the S2 because of cost, cost cost! Tivo is a little expensive as is, and I can't justify dropping $500+ on the S3. |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
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Re: Too good to be true?
said by Camelot One  :Almost seems too good to be true. With as easy as it is to upgrade the HD, whats the catch? (mind you I have not looked at the tivo forum for details) The cable cards. That means no Interaction (Pay on Demand Channels) or ability to view channels that are being served only if someone on your node is watching (I forget the technical term but it has to do with preserving bandwidth by restricting the number of channels that are always available and using the "saved" bandwidth to feed multiple channels as needed). |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
1 edit | Not with their new pricing model
I'm not a fan of the new pricing model.
The monthly service is a complete rip-off unless you go with a long contract. But if you're willing to prepay you can get 3 years for just over $8/mo but you used to get lifetime service for that $300 range.
With a 1 year contract they were up to $20/mo for service for awhile. Now it's "only" $17. TiVo software is pretty good, but not $17/mo+HW good.
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
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| Main reason I do not want a Tivo. Screw paying for a freakin' tv guide! I just don't get the allure of paying monthly for such a thing - I'd rather just rent a DVR from Cox or build my own PVR.
Why are no Tivo "generic" type things out there that would work the same minus the silly monthly fee? |
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
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They better make the monthly fees cheap. $10 or less. Why do they need $15/month just to push you some programming lineups. tv.yahoo.com or tv.msn.com will give it to you for free.
Slingbox is thriving because they don't include the rip off fees. They could have charged a monthly fee to do the placeshifting but choose not to. Tivo has been dying and they wonder why  |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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2 edits | reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Not with their new pricing model
Yeah, I agree completely. I am a big fan of TiVo, I've owned lots of them, even an S3 due to the lifetime transfer promotion they ran. But for $500+ $17/month+cablecard fees, I will instead just deal with leased TW box. At least they replace it if it dies.
Dropping the OLED display on this new S3 is no big loss. The one on the previous S3 is too small to read from across the room anyway.
Oh, and lifetime service used to be $199!
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58483323
Gurt me
join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL | Smarten up!
Tivo does need to smarten up here. Charging $15-20 per month just to use the thing is ridiculous. They should keep the fee at $10 per month and nothing more. I'm sure the high monthly fee is a turn off for many. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
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Especially now that they're broadband enabled. They should offer a cheaper "bring your own access plan" because I have to think the dialup portion of TiVo service factors into the high cost.
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NGOwner
join:2000-11-21
Leawood, KS
| reply to RARPSL
Re: Too good to be true?
said by RARPSL :or ability to view channels that are being served only if someone on your node is watching (I forget the technical term but it has to do with preserving bandwidth by restricting the number of channels that are always available and using the "saved" bandwidth to feed multiple channels as needed). SDV = Switched Digital Video
[NG]Owner
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NGOwner
join:2000-11-21
Leawood, KS | reply to IanR
Re: Cheaper power supply
External HD means that the External HD will have an External Powersupply, as well (I think).
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Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | reply to 58483323
Re: Smarten up!
How about $8 per month, would that suit you? |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
4 edits | reply to djrobx
Re: Not with their new pricing model
said by djrobx :... I will instead just deal with leased TW box. At least they replace it if it dies. And you don't have to deal with cable operators not issuing bi-directional cable cards (so you can do all the VoD stuff etc). In my service area with TWC, the cable cards will descrable but you can't do VOD or order PPV with them. From what I read the S3 TiVos are supposed to support the nextgen cards but no cable operators are offering them because they want people to rent their stuff for $17 (here it's $7.95 box rental plus $10 service fee).
I want VOD as it was one of the few things I liked when I had Comcast, but Dish Network's 2 tuner HD DVR was relatively cheap and the service is free (with their top tier programming package).
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floepie
join:2005-12-01
| Streaming?
Their monthly fee would *almost* be worth it if they included some sort of AppleTV-esque ability to sync/stream with/from a base PC all media including pics and audio files. Now that would be great - a DVR and streamer with onboard MP4/MP2 dedicated decoder chip to replace a make-shift HTPC with media center. |
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ifarrell
join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC
·Vonage
| reply to IanR
Re: Cheaper power supply
said by IanR :Does this mean that adding an external HD will not be possible? More than likely no eSATA as the smaller board won't support it.
No doubt though the internal drive will be upgradable (through hackable means) to put a bigger drive inside. |
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58483323
Gurt me
join:2003-06-23
Normal, IL | reply to Cabal
Re: Smarten up!
Well sure... the cheaper the better.
But I'm perfectly happy with my Dish DVRs which I lease for $6 a month with no upfront costs. Who can beat that? |
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Johnny
Premium
join:2001-06-27
Atlanta, GA
·Comcast
| Sold
At $299 I'm getting it. I already pay the $12.95 TiVo series 2 fee and need to get rid of this disaster called the Motorola 3416, along with its crappy interface and confusing remote.
Advantages the TiVo has over the Motorola:
- can use broadband and the web to schedule
- can see your Now Playing list on your computer over the network
- has a interface that actually makes sense and responds immediately
- doesn't forget the programs it recorded
- programs by name, not by time slot
- lists the programs on "To Do" list all on one screen
- can download recorded programs over the home network to the computer
- remote control is 100x better than the Moto
- has automatic 8-second rewind after fast forward
- entering text to specify a title or actor name is 10x better than the Moto's kludgy system |
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