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Comments on news posted 2007-07-19 09:09:03: The FBI this week nabbed the maker of a high school bomb threat by using a piece of spyware called the Computer and Internet Protocol Address Verifier, or CIPAV. ..
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  Bradmph
join:2006-03-01 Spokane, WA | Going to Hurt Much? There's nothing like the government saying, " Don't worry, were only going to stick the head in".
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4 edits | The Cure is Worse than the Disease.............. .............And for those who seem to have forgotten what this country purportedly stands for, please consider the following.........Prohibitions of those activities of which you feel yourself innocent, and of which you are presently scornful, may be joined in the law books of the future with statutes which ban your own present activities....Example: USING THE INTERNET! Period! Like Illegal Radios in Germany........or.....Certain Girlie Magazines in THIS COUNTRY DURING THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES AND INTO THE SIXTIES ............It's not a matter of WHETHER we will, at some time in the future, lose our rights... Loss of rights has already occurred in this country during periods of fright and other forms of emotional instability on the part of a body politic that actually PAYS to be scared during horror movies and is always SEEKING some one or some group to hate and be scared of.......This pathology that says "Take my rights ... so I can feel safer......(?!)" simply suggests to the mentally stable that you are not responsible enough to handle rights as any adult should be.
The Newscasts of this country had become ludicrous long before NETWORK pointed out the fallacies way back in the seventies (".......way back....." was for the benefit of those who really think that the Seventies WERE ancient history and have absolutely no clue about the aforementioned forties and fifties) But when the guy asked everyone to get up out of their chairs and go to the windows and shout "I'm as Mad as Hell and I'm Not going to take it anymore......" one must recall that Paddy Chayefsky was (not so) subtly pointing out that the guy whose advice we all take IS as MAD AS HELL!!
The Character in the movie and anyone who sits at home and takes the advice of those who urge us to raise our blood pressure with the Color Coded Threat Level are all certifiably INSANE.
Your cure for the insanity of terrorism is, itself, MORE insane than the rudest formerly employed Construction Contractor hunkered down in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan with kidney disease, but with a mental disease that is even of more serious import ...............and if you want to follow him into blithering idiocy..............go right ahead.
But, since you are so willing to give up your rights.... please leave them with those of us who do not wish to forfeit ours and who will guard them more responsibly than you have. | |
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| I don't know what brand of dope you're smokin' but- I don't know what you people read or listen to that gets you so far away from reality. Sometimes I think some of you are as blind as a buzzard at forty thousand feet.
But we haven't lost any rights. As a matter of fact the lunatic fringe left in this country has made sure that we've lost nearly every moral right that decent folks in this country treasure. At the same time they've won for themselves the right to do immoral things that decent folks in this country abhor.
We haven't lost any rights. We've just lost moral decency. Child porn isn't reported because it would be a threat to free expression. And you think we've lost rights? Who is insane here?! -- You're an American. You get a free pass, but nobody rides for free. | |
|  |   RR Conductor RailRoadDude Premium join:2002-04-02 Redwood Valley, CA | Re: I don't know what brand of dope you're smokin' but- »Freedom | |
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| Re: I don't know what brand of dope you're smokin' but- Good stuff! -- You're an American. You get a free pass, but nobody rides for free. | |
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If you put a frog (in this case an American) in a boiling pot of water, he will jump out right away. However, put him in a cold pot of water and slowly turn it up to boling, he will not leave, and will die. I would suggest to you that you are in the water, it's getting warmer and you refuse to recogonize it, to your own loss. The Constitution will one day hang by a thread, saved only by those who care, I believe that day is close at hand. -- »www.gorail.org See MAJOR freight&passenger action@ the Galesburg, IL RailCam! »205.245.189.161:1100/ My soon to be employer,as an Asst.Conductor- »www.amtrak.com »www.modocrailroadacademy.com -Grad,Class of 2-07,woohoo! | |
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| Re: I don't know what brand of dope you're smokin' but- You remind me of the gun control lobby. They think they are the only ones on the watch. Ordinary americans will just sit there and let all their guns get taken away. So they need someone to save them.
No wait a minute... you sound like the warm earth crowd. They think everyone is just going to sit around for 50 - 100 years while the earth heats up until there's no more food and no more water. Ordinary americans will just sit there and run out of food and water. So they need someone to save them.
Tell me what freedoms I've lost. And I'll tell you what freedoms have been gained. For instance...
There was a time when we were free from open immorality and vice. Well that's all gone now. Now anything goes because everyone's got the right. Child molesters and their child porn are protected because it would be an erosion of rights to turn those monsters over. I know it's true and you know it's true.
That Constitution and Bill of Rights has endured much, and a long time, and it will continue to do so. You're not the only ones watching. You're just the most paranoid and the most vocal. -- You're an American. You get a free pass, but nobody rides for free. | |
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| What is happening now... This thread has been printed and posted at FBI and CIA water coolers to server as amusement.
In fact, Special Agents Bill and Fred are contemplating who in the forum they are going to hack into next, and insert obscene pictures of sheep as the desktop. | |
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| So.....YOU say that YOU haven't lost any rights............. .................Please be kind enough to explain your disconnect on the fact that when ANY of us loses ANY rights...Then we ALL have lost something so precious that the barbecue meat still gurgling around in your colon from the Fourth of July is a small memento of our efforts to celebrate the acquisition thereof on an annual basis..........
You also totally missed the point of: The person who is so insane as to follow an insane person is more certifiable than the former, whether that person is a Hitler, a Mussolini, a Stalin, A Bin Laden or a BUSH!
But, at least you're not in denial, as you apparently really DID watch the X-Files, dintcha?
This is NOT about hordes of FBI agents crawling over your privacy rights, it is more about ANY given Federal or Local official having the sanction of laws to violate ANYBODY'S rights at will with the "Justification" that the country's emotional stability is at stake, when the actual mob mentality IS the manifestation of emotional INSTABILITY...
Now, of course I am just SO sure that YOU believe that YOUR rights have never been and never will be violated......Much like the speaker in the famous poem about Government persons coming to take away variously differentiated of his neighbors until there was nobody left to protest his own abduction......Not even you. | |
|   Andrew J Premium join:2001-11-09 Lancaster, PA clubs: | I'm sure the FBI was just testing it. The real use will be when they give it to the RIAA. -- Best Team. | |
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| "The world has never had a good definition of the word 'liberty.' The American people just now, are much in want of one. We all declare for liberty. But in using the same word, we do not all mean the same thing.
"What constitutes the bulwark of our liberty and independence? It is not our frowning battlements, our bristling seacoasts -- these are not our reliance against tyranny. Our reliance is in the love of liberty, which God has planted in our bosom. Our defence is in the preservation of the spirit which prizes liberty as the heritage of all men in all lands, everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you have planted the seeds of despotism around your own door.
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow?
"Never.
"All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, could not, by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer that if it ever reach us, it must spring from amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be the authors and finishers.
"As a nation of free men, we must live through our times or die by suicide. Let reverence for the law be breathed by every American mother to the lisping babe that prattles on her lap; let it be taught in the schools, in the seminaries and in the colleges; let it be written in primers, in spelling books and almanacs; let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls and enforced in courts of justice; and in short, let it become the political religion of the nation. And let the old and the young, the rich and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tongues and colors and conditions, sacrifice unceasingly at its altar. And let us strive to deserve, as far as mortals may, the continued care of Divine Providence, trusting that in future national emergencies, He will not fail to provide us the instruments of safety and security.
"Let us not be slandered from our duty by false accusations against us, nor frightened from it by menaces of destruction to the government, nor of dungeons to ourselves.
"Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it."
-- Abraham Lincoln
"At what point then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer that if it ever reach us, it must spring from amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be the authors and finishers"
That part rings more true today than ever. We can be attacked by the Russians, or the Chinese, or the terrorists or etc..., but WE will be the ones to destroy ourselves, not their attacks. -- »www.gorail.org See MAJOR freight&passenger action@ the Galesburg, IL RailCam! »205.245.189.161:1100/ My soon to be employer,as an Asst.Conductor- »www.amtrak.com »www.modocrailroadacademy.com -Grad,Class of 2-07,woohoo! | |
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