  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS | Heh...
About time something "gets done", but I'm not holding my breath. Only time will tell. |
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 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
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It's time to classify Internet Broadband Access as a utility once and for all and get it over with.
Already, they're all trying to shove everything, including a Ham Sandwich, down the internet.. Phone, 'Television Signals', and other services are all being sent via IP now.. it's time to bring definitions into modern ways of thinking.
No more should AT&T be able to say they aren't offering Television because it's "packets" and Cable operators should not be able to say they are an "information service" and not the internet and then turn around and sell High Speed "Internet"... Vonage, SunRocket, ViaTalk, Packet8, and Cable VoIP services should be handled as phone and not "information service" since you pick up a hand set, dial 7, 10, or 11 digits, make another phone somewhere ring, and carry a conversation. And CERTAINLY, providers like Verizon should not be able to say "It's Fiber, not phone" while they cut out the ILEC copper lines and replace them with non-regulated fiber lines. If they are the ILEC, and are allowed to cut homes out of the LEC picture, the way I see it, they are either no longer interested in being the ILEC *OR* they are simply upgrading their ILEC plant with fiber over copper and should do the whole service area.
Until they get over the "transport" method for definition and look at the service "intent" itself, we will never advance technology wise. Our 3rd and 4th branches of government (Congress and Corporations) are playing the people of this country for fools.
One of the easiest ways to handle this is be honest in definitions of these services and what the internet really is. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." |
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 MeKuN
join:2004-07-21 Eugene, OR | More money?
What happened to all the money Clinton gave them? O I forgot taxpayers have deep pockets. My bad. |
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 clecssuck
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| If you think it's bad now..
..just wait till the Feds get involved
Seriously, outside of military what has the Federal government been involved in that they did not screw up completely? They'll force DSL to be provided in the ghetto, no one there will want it or no one there will pay for it and then all our rates will go up. |
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  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS | reply to fiberguy Re: It's time to re-classify it all.
*Applause* Amen to that.  |
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  r81984 Fair and Balanced Premium join:2001-11-14 St John'S, NL
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| What about satellite?
Technically there is 100% coverage since anyone can get satellite internet.
Latency should be a factor in what broadband is along with speed.
Using latency (at least to the end of their network) would force companies to use better equipment and not oversell their networks. If they oversell their networks and average latency becomes terrible they should loose their broadband status.
Also then satellite service could not be marketed as broadband, but just a high speed connection because of its terrible latency. -- »www.ryanoneill.us |
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  BF69
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said by fiberguy :It's time to classify Internet Broadband Access as a utility once and for all and get it over with. Already, they're all trying to shove everything, including a Ham Sandwich, down the internet.. Well the internet is not a truck you know. It's a series of tubes. Your ham sandwich clogging the tubes is probably why I didn't get the internet that someone sent me yesterday. |
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  Jodokast96 R.I.P Bassman442 Premium join:2005-11-23 Erial, NJ
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| said by BF69 :said by fiberguy :It's time to classify Internet Broadband Access as a utility once and for all and get it over with. Already, they're all trying to shove everything, including a Ham Sandwich, down the internet.. Well the internet is not a truck you know. It's a series of tubes. Your ham sandwich clogging the tubes is probably why I didn't get the internet that someone sent me yesterday. All right, which one of you two had my launch at work?! |
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said by r81984 :Technically there is 100% coverage since anyone can get satellite internet. Not if there is a HOUSE or trees blocking a view of the satellite you cant. You MUST have a clear southwest view to get it.  |
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  r81984 Fair and Balanced Premium join:2001-11-14 St John'S, NL
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1 edit | The FCC is counting a whole zip code if just one person can get broadband in an area. I do not know where you live but at least someone in a whole zip code should be able to get satellite.
Satellite is available everywhere. Thats right trees can be cut, dishes can be placed on top of buildings, dishes can be placed on 50 foot poles or even ham radio towers. If you think you cannot get satellite somewhere then you are not trying hard enough.
I guess in the extreme case you would happen to live across of the north side of the sears tower you would not be able to use satellite as you might have a problem running your own coax to a dish outside of the buildings shadow. Anyways if you live in a city you probably have the option of both DSL and cable internet so satellite internet would be a waste of money.
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  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS
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said by Jodokast96 :said by BF69 :said by fiberguy :It's time to classify Internet Broadband Access as a utility once and for all and get it over with. Already, they're all trying to shove everything, including a Ham Sandwich, down the internet.. Well the internet is not a truck you know. It's a series of tubes. Your ham sandwich clogging the tubes is probably why I didn't get the internet that someone sent me yesterday. All right, which one of you two had my launch at work?! I lol'd.  |
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  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS
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| reply to clecssuck Re: If you think it's bad now..
said by clecssuck :..just wait till the Feds get involved Seriously, outside of military what has the Federal government been involved in that they did not screw up completely? They'll force DSL to be provided in the ghetto, no one there will want it or no one there will pay for it and then all our rates will go up. =] I'm in the ghetto and have DSL. Poor DSL, but it's DSL @ 1.5 mbit. Can't get anything higher. |
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  Pashune Inhaling at 675 KB per sec. Premium join:2006-04-14 Gautier, MS
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said by hayabusa3303 :said by r81984 :Technically there is 100% coverage since anyone can get satellite internet. Not if there is a HOUSE or trees blocking a view of the satellite you cant. You MUST have a clear southwest view to get it. Don't worry. All you'd have to do is get a bunch of repeaters and a tower anywhere from 50 ft to 2-3 miles high. |
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  Siryak
join:2005-11-26 | reply to fiberguy Re: It's time to re-classify it all.
"It's time to classify Internet Broadband Access as a utility once and for all and get it over with."
I second that! -- Wildblue Pro Pack / Beam 40 / Laredo NOC / Windows Vista Home Premium |
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1 edit | reply to r81984 Re: What about satellite?
said by r81984 :... Satellite is available everywhere. ... so what. satellite is not broadband. it's a very expensive, slightly better than dialup connection. |
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  ifarrell
join:2000-08-10 Willow Spring, NC | reply to Pashune Re: Heh...
Shouldn't that have been "Congress realizes they suck"???  |
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  hitman_001 Premium join:2006-11-20 Laredo, TX
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You can consider Satellite a "broadband" connection when the providers make it to where downloading windows updates or other files over 250 meg in size dont make your connection stop working for 24 hours. (hughesnet) -- Hn7000s Small Office plan/.74m dish & 1Watt Trans on Satmex 5 Signal: 86/Win XP Pro SP2/P4 3gig, 2Gigs Ram, Radeon X1300 500meg video |
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  Mactron el camino Real Premium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv
1 edit | reply to nasadude said by nasadude :said by r81984 :... Satellite is available everywhere. ... so what. satellite is not broadband. it's a very expensive, slightly better than dialup connection. It meets the FCC's definition. 
So now your whole Zip Code has BroadBand. 
j/k  -- If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well.  |
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  DrModem Premium join:2006-10-19 USA | reply to ifarrell Re: Heh...
they already know that.
in polls they make president bush look like a star. |
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  DrModem Premium join:2006-10-19 USA | reply to r81984 Re: What about satellite?
satellite does not count as broadband.
it is the dialup of the new age. |
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