ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Ditch the contract and you may have a deal
But if you don't want a very long contract they rip you for their ad filled monthly service.
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morbo
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clubs: |  much more reasonable price
i can see myself getting this version when my current series2 40 hour refurb dies or i finally get hdtv. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Please explain
Ok I've never owned any kind of DVR. If I'm paying $300 for one why should I have to pay a monthly fee? Back when peopled use VCR to record shows you paid for the VCR and the tape and that's it. Heck most new DVD players have it where you can record so why not use one of those? They cost less than $300 and no monthly fee. |
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jdmatl
join:2000-04-27
Deerfield Beach, FL
|  Series2 is "dead"
Tivo "blew out" their Series2 dual tuner units last month for a great price of $299. The S2 has dual analog tuners and it doesn't take cable cards. Life of the S2DT is probably 3 years or so till cable companies remove support for "analog digital" channels 2-99. Then that two tuner unit becomes a single tuner unit cause it will need a cable box to access all channels.
Had I known that the S3-Lite would be $299, would have never purchased a s2DT. I was guessing cost would be 499 or 599 considering how the original S3 was 899.00.
Sigh, live and learn.  |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Oh wellz
The TiVo HD DVR is designed for cable and CANNOT support satellite programming. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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Re: Please explain
monthly fee is for updates, access to other tivo exclusives like downloading movies to your tivo from amazon, etc.
advantage of dvr is that it saves you time. unlike a vcr, you don't have to record it using the old cumbersome vcr menu. no switching tapes as everything is on a hard drive and easily accessible (no rewinding and ff to find shows). |
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jdmatl
join:2000-04-27
Deerfield Beach, FL
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Re: Oh wellz
said by ninjatutle  :The TiVo HD DVR is designed for cable and CANNOT support satellite programming. All the Satellite guys have their own DVR's so no big loss. Rumor is that Tivo will be re-entering DirecTV market again.
I don't see how given that Dtv has their own Dvr's that Dtv actually produces (I think). |
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jdmatl
join:2000-04-27
Deerfield Beach, FL
| reply to ColorBASIC
Re: Ditch the contract and you may have a deal
said by ColorBASIC :But if you don't want a very long contract they rip you for their ad filled monthly service. Not ad-filled. There are some, but you have to click on them to see them. They are not "pop-ups" that spring up all over the place like a webpage without a pop-up blocker.
You must not own a Tivo.  |
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matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
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This is the same time of business practice that causes me to avoid MMORPG games such as World of Warcraft -- they expect me to shell out $50-$60 for the game and then spend another $15/month on top of it? No effing thank you. However, with the TiVo the hypocrisy is even worse. With WoW, at least I can understand that some, if not most, of the monthly fee is used to pay for bandwidth and server maintenance and upgrades. However, what exactly is the monthly fee to TiVo paying for? The advertisements they cram down your throat? I'm sorry, but the last time I checked it was supposed to the advertisers that paid for that and not the consumer... or maybe they are? I have a feeling TiVo may be hanging onto both ends of the stick here. |
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matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT | reply to morbo
Re: Please explain
And what if you don't want to be spoon fed TiVo's junk? Do they allow you to bypass the monthly fees altogether for a "bare bones" DVR that just does what it's supposed to? Not that I'm aware of, and that's why I've avoided TiVo like the plague. |
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Burrens
join:2006-01-17
Los Angeles, CA | TiVo HD and SDV
Will this work with SDV? Time Warner here in Austin employs SDV from what I hear. I would hate to trade up to the TiVo HD, and subscribe to digital cable to find out that I cannot get all the channels that TW offers. |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| reply to matrix3D
Re: Ditch the contract and you may have a deal
Online games cost money to keep running. Do you honestly thing that sales alone could generate enough money to keep such a massive game going smoothly.
You get what you pay for. Great game and worth the fee.
As for the Tivo, the listings cost money, they put out great updates and as a company are fighting to make your recorded videos easier to access wherever you want.
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vonslatt
join:2001-07-17
Burlington, MA
| Just ordered mine . . . .
I almost sold my TiVo stock when I switched to Verizon FiOS and got the Motorola HD DVR. I thought TiVo would be demolished by this competition.
However, the Motorola DVR sucked so deeply and thoroughly that I vowed to go back to TiVo the moment the Series3 hit three bills, I thought that was going to take another year so I'm pleasantly surprised.
The value TiVo provides for their monthly fee far out strips that provided by the Verizon DVR's rental.
And don't say MythTV to me unless you've actually configured one to receive both HD and Digital cable programming AND successfully trained your family in it's use! 
Jake.
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pjhofmann
join:2000-08-22
Happy Valley, OR | reply to morbo
Re: much more reasonable price
My problem with Tivo Series 3 is that the CableCards you use are not 2-way. I use OnDemand a lot on Comcast and would not want to lose that feature. I'll stick with Moto HD-DVR box I get from Comcast and my Tivo Series 2 keeps going on the SD TV. |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
Premium
join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA
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Re: Ditch the contract and you may have a deal
I have no problem paying a monthly fee, but they should then tone down the advertisements, especially when they (TiVo) are trying to get $17/mo. For $17/mo in service fees plus the cost of the HW, you should never see a SINGLE advertisement on the TiVo service.
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anon tivo
@theplanet.com | reply to matrix3D
you must not have a tivo. |
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soccerguy
join:2004-06-28
Seattle, WA
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No disrespect, but I've owned two TiVo's for years and have never had any problems with advertisements. The only one's I've ever seen require the user to actively click on messages to view them, which I never do. In other words, I never see an advertisement unless I go looking for it on TiVo. |
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Kevin Dupuy
join:2007-04-07
Addis, LA | reply to jdmatl
Re: Oh wellz
As a DIRECTV customer, I do miss their TiVo service (mine died and I had to get their crappy DVR)
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ajwees41
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Omaha, NE
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| reply to pjhofmann
Re: much more reasonable price
said by pjhofmann :My problem with Tivo Series 3 is that the CableCards you use are not 2-way. I use OnDemand a lot on Comcast and would not want to lose that feature. I'll stick with Moto HD-DVR box I get from Comcast and my Tivo Series 2 keeps going on the SD TV. The cards don't need to be 2way Tivo needs hardware and Tivo hasn't gotten cable labs approval.
Plus The need to run OCAP software on the S3.
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nipseyrussel
Nipsey Russell, yo
join:2002-02-22
Philadelphia, PA | reply to morbo
Re: Please explain
monthly fee is for the TV guide info that is really the heart of the difference between it and a VCR. Considering we are talking about downloading some fairly low impact text data, $17 is ridiculous. $5 would seem much more appropriate |
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