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Comments on news posted 2007-07-24 14:42:02: [att=1192778,r]AT&T posted a 61% increase in second-quarter earnings today, though that's thanks to its buyout of BellSouth. ..

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jgkolt
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go verizon

then put ur money behind verizon for fios and wireless.
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timcuth
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 146,000 registrations?

I wonder why there were only 146,000 registrations when it has been widely reported that 700,000 iPhones were sold? I understand why the numbers might not match, exactly, but it seems like they should be a lot closer than that.

So, did 550,000 people buy iPhones just to use as iPods? Or, is the sales figure of 700,000 just another pipe dream?

Wait, here's another idea. 550,000 phones were bought by saps who thought they would buy them for $600 and sell them for $1200 into a sold-out market. Ha ha ha!

Tim
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Jon
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146,000 reported compared to 500,000 predicted

How many phones did they sell?
It's probably because after paying $600+ for the phone, they couldn't afford to activate it.

edit ^^ I see, 700,000


jspectre

join:2001-11-08
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 more likely..

all those phones weren't activated because of the widespread problems AT&T was having activating the damn phones.. most weren't enabled until 24-48 hours later!


BillTager

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Charlotte, NC

reply to timcuth
Re: 146,000 registrations?

quote:
I wonder why there were only 146,000 registrations when it has been widely reported that 700,000 iPhones were sold?
Could it be that the 146K activations were new AT&T customers only, and that the rest were existing customers?

Just a guess.
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NPGMBR

join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA

Time Will Tell

I think it is safe to say that those numbers (may) improve as the current cellular contracts of current and future iPhone buyers come to and end. Those numbers dont include purchases made directly from Apple.

But it could also be any of the following:
1. People arent willing to pay that much the iPhone
2. Don't wanna be stuck with AT&T
3. Afraid of the all in one device scenario


tigers

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Irmo, SC

reply to jspectre
Re: more likely..

The phones went on sale at 6 pm friday and the second quarter ended on Saturday.

Still 146k vs. 700k estimated is quite a discrepancy. I wonder how much the activation problems hurt those numbers and also if they take into account the phones sold by Apple stores.

Om Malik has a few comments as well: »gigaom.com/2007/07/24/iphone-and···lusions/

said by Om Malik :

...Richard Farmer of Merrill Lynch takes the cake, when he stomps his feet and says, “we expected more days of selling in June.” We know Steve is God, but even he can’t add extra days to June....
...Over a period of 30 hours (including night time) equates to 4867 iPhone activations per hour or 82 activations per second.


tigers

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reply to BillTager
Re: 146,000 registrations?

said by BillTager See Profile :

quote:
I wonder why there were only 146,000 registrations when it has been widely reported that 700,000 iPhones were sold?
Could it be that the 146K activations were new AT&T customers only, and that the rest were existing customers?

Just a guess.
AT&T says total:

"AT&T activated 146,000 iPhone subscribers, more than 40 percent of them new subscribers. Sales of the iPhone continue to be strong in July with store traffic above historical levels."


DaSneaky1D
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How many iPhones were returned, or will be before 30 days?

Buyers remorse I'm sure claimed a large portion of those numbers.

For most people, dropping $500 on a new phone is not a reality. Many people that did buy them, did so on a credit card (very stupid) or used already accounted for funds (ie, mortgage/rent, bills, ect). And sometimes, after all the fun and attention to "you" wears off, you're just left with an expensive phone.

I wouldn't doubt that many of the people that bought them never intended to activate it. Or, if they did see that "cute" gadget, was scared off at the time of activation after they seen how much one line of service would really cost.
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bogey780

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It's explained. Activations from only the first 48 hours were counted. Those who bought theirs from a reseller, had trouble activating, or didn't activate immediately weren't counted.


ninjatutle
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Hooray Iphone news

Its still in the news because.......


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reply to NPGMBR
Re: Time Will Tell

said by NPGMBR See Profile

But it could also be any of the following:
1. People arent willing to pay that much the iPhone
2. Don't wanna be stuck with AT&T
3. Afraid of the all in one device scenario
[/BQUOTE :


It could be....

We have a winner! All 3 of the top reasons I took a pass on the iPhone.
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Pictor Guy

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146,000 activations != 146,000 sold

Activations is not the same as sold. Being that most new subscribers were reporting 20+ hours to activate a phone I would be willing to bet that many more phones were sold. The 2% of users having problems is questionable based on posts and personal experience for new subscribers.


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reply to timcuth
Re: 146,000 registrations?

Off course it's a pipe dream. Look Apple is the marketing masters. What sounds better..we sold 700,000 or 146,000.

The 700K just makes people talk, talk, and do more talking about this overpirced, overhyped phone. And I am an Apple person. IMHO people are nuts to pay that much money for the product being offered. Way overpriced.

The first waves are done. The early adopters have bought their phones. Let's see where they are at next year?
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reply to timcuth
Re: 146,000 registrations?

Maybe it's because we're looking at the time period of 6PM Friday June 29 through June 30?


Rick
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The numbers they don't want to talk about...

Guess what folks?....

Another almost TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND LANDLINES bit the old dust.

Yep..that's right. In just one quarter..there goes another 1/4 million.

And you know what? I think if I was a TELEPHONE company..I might find that just a teeny weeny bit concerning.

But hey..that's not all..is it?

Remember that next generation video..voice and HSI service we've been hearing so much about?
You know..the one that for what seems FOREVER now has been rolling out to all kinds of cities across this great land of ours.

Well, guess what kids...
You know how many customers they've managed to sign up for it?

Hold on to your seats folks. It's a real whopper.

51,000.

Yep..that's right. FIFTY ONE THOUSAND people have flocked to AT&T's door for the latest in copper technology.

I mean, doesn't it seem like AGES ago that the AT&T fanclub was telling us the number was 40,000. And so, in between THEN..and todays earnings release..they've managed to really sock it too the cable industry, by adding another 11,000 customers.

Ya know what? Like I've said over..and over and over..
when you have a telco this size..and they're losing that many landlines..and their next generation uverse service is this much of a failure to date...you really don't have very much left now, do you?

Well, of course..they do have the Iphone.

Is it any wonder that the market is now panicking over those numbers?

AT&T...listen up. And listen good.

You don't have much time left.

Ftth..is what you need to do now.

As in..TODAY.
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iLive4Apple
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Way behind AT&T

If AT&T gives me some FTTC or more liked FTTH I would consider getting phone service with them. But my AT&T landline is very horrible sounding, thats why I only have the basic dialtone and the 6.0 DSL and VOIP. If speeds don't increase like Charter's is then I am going to have to leave them alltogether. I wish Verizon was here. And the iPhone, well it doesnt have voice dial from what I hear and it's not even freakin UMTS 3G compatible.

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No 3g

If you are willing to spend that kind of money on a phone, wouldn't you expect it to have the most recent technology? No way in hell I'd spend $500 on a phone that can't do 3g. I waited for a price drop on the 8525 and I'm happy. I wasn't willing to spend $399. Got a refurb for $99.


ColorBASIC
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Wow, how about a little perspective

U-Verse, yeah they're at 51,000, a 300% increase in subcribers from the 1st quarter. Pretty good.

Revenue is nearly double what it was the prevous year, margins are up from 19 to 24%.

Over 400,000 new DSL adds..that is still great but shy of the absolutely insane 700,000 adds previously.

And no one in their right mind expected a 1/2 million iPhone ACTIVATIONS in LESS THAN 2 days. 150K activations in less than 2 days of sales ain't shabby. Certainly far more were sold that weekend that weren't activated by the time the qtr closed. And of course sales have been robust since then. And nearly 1/2 of those activations were non-AT&T subs...either their first phone or I would guess the former customer of a competitor.

All of the news is good for AT&T except for their continued bleeding of POTS customers due to overpriced options like Caller ID.

And call the iPhone an over hyped, over priced, crash happy POS that is open to attacks, 8GB ain't enough memory and while I can afford a $600 phone I can't afford an $80 battery and all the other hater nonsense...the iPhone has been a huge success for both Apple and AT&T. AT&T is snaking subs from their competitors while Apple makes profit not only on the phone, but a share of the $60+/mo service fees customers are paying every month.
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