RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH
 ·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | 2 Trips, 4hrs
Big surprise there, anyone ever think they were taking this long on purpose just to say "Hey ya know i have one our boxes in the van that will work right now"?
I know in my experience with cable cards from outher cable companies all you need to do is read some numbers from a screen on the device. Thus why its suggested a tech is sent in case the cablecard is defective. |
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Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA
| Sad, but not surprising
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It's a source of endless astonishment to me that in the eight years since the first TiVo box hit the market, the cable companies and the two makers of most of their set-top boxes, Motorola (MOT) and Cisco's (CSCO) Scientific Atlanta, have never come close to matching TiVo's ease of use. TiVo still runs rings around the cable carriers' best boxes with its speedy response to remote-control clicks, its well-organized and easy-to-search program guide, and its really fast fast-forward.
I wonder how many more years it will be, I had the (dis)pleasure of using the latest and greatest Motorola box at one of my parents' places recently and it was a joke.
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | reply to RIRWIN1983
Re: 2 Trips, 4hrs
I mean no disrespect but i had trouble understanding half of what you said. But I think I understand the jist of what you are saying.
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
Premium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs:
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Speakeasy
| PC tuners?
Where are the TV tuners for my PC with CableCard abilities? Are they that expensive and/or hard to make?
And are they only going to work with Vista?
Since cable TV analog reception is dying, I need to use an STB to get any decent channels on my computer - which stinks for 1) rental and 2) size and 3) inability to change channels/schedule recordings on my PC.
Where are the PC tuners with CC capability? Last I saw was a prototype ATI one...
KM
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| Simple Economics
Joe 6-pack sees:
1) Comcast DVR - $11/mo
2) Tivo - $299 + $16/mo + CableCard fees
They're going to pick #1 every time.
That being said, I've had DirecTIVO and now Comcast with a Motorola box. While the Motorola is no Tivo, the $300 - $5/mo I'll deal with it's idiosyncrasies. Not that Tivo didn't have theirs..... |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26 | It won't be long
and these rapacious little boxes will start piling up in local offices.
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | reply to KoolMoe
Re: PC tuners?
You won't see them for your PC. Why? CableLabs will only license the tech. to OEM's for inclusion in a finished PC.
IOW no cards for your own PC - you'll have to buy a new PC with it built in. |
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bi0tech
join:2003-06-19 | Addition..
'you'll have to buy a new PC with it built in' pre-installed with Vista. |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| reply to itguy05
Re: Simple Economics
It's even worse for Tivo here in Time Warner territory. Time Warner charges a mere $6.95 for a DVR with one premium channel or their All-The-Best package. ($9.95 with just digital cable.) At that price, Tivo's $299 + $16/month just can't compete. I could have 2 DVRs and still save money over Tivo's one DVR. |
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Tim618
join:2003-10-14
Garrettsville, OH
| long wait
I had DirectTV install an HD DVR for me back in march. To do that, they installed a new dish, ran all new lines into my house, drilled etc, moved my old HD box to another room, set that up, setup the new HD DVR box, all in about 4 hours. I love the hd dvr, records 50 hours of HD programming and 250 of non hd. 4 hours for one box is crasy! |
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Flippant
So Much For Subtlety
Premium,Mod
join:2000-06-04
Katy, TX
Host:
Filesharing Software
Earthlink Cable
Texas Gulf Coast
AT&T U-verse
AT&T Southwest
| Not surprising it took 2 weeks to get their own box setup
I got new Motorola box with an internal cable card. Initially everything seemed to work, then it was noticed that one channel required a need to be initialized by Comcast. Soon after we found about 50 such channels. Called phone support, eventually passed to tier 2 in my area and after 2 hours of sending signals down the cable and rebooting had a service call.
The tech had 6 new boxes on his truck, after 2 more hours all 6 boxes were tried and still none of the previously stuck channels would work. Recommended solution, get an older box but he did not have one. Some time later in the week the channels finally started working. No idea why but those cable cards certainly do not quite look ready for prime time yet. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Jason Levine
Re: Simple Economics
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Time Warner charges a mere $6.95 for a DVR with one premium channel or their All-The-Best package. ($9.95 with just digital cable.) At that price, Tivo's $299 + $16/month just can't compete. I could have 2 DVRs and still save money over Tivo's one DVR
Good lord Time Warner's pricing is way different here. I have all three services plus a premium channel.
DVR service is $9.99 plus the box rental fee of $4.24. Your 2nd box is $6.95. Here it is right off my bill:
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
| And to think I thought getting my DirecTV was complicated.
It's so freaking simple with DirecTV now. Once the freaking moron contractors get the dish installed correctly any literate person, even grandma, can plugin DirecTV boxes.
My service plan includes unlimited DVR boxes and I only pay an extra $5/mo per extra receivers OR DVRs. It is more expensive, or so it seems than cable with "lease upgrade fees" for the flashy HD DVR but after a year it pays for itself (over my local Cox prices).
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magnushsi
join:2002-11-06
Cedar Springs, MI
| Author statement:
"The cost to TiVo, anyway. Despite all the talk of CableCARDS, there's only 260,000 currently in use, in part because cable operators aren't eager to cannibalize their DVR rental income by promoting them."
The authors statement of about cable operators DVR rental income is bogus. They don't promote CC rental because no-one is selling a two-way device, yet. The cable operator wants the customer to have the ability to impulse buy VOD, PPV, games, etc. As long as they have a CC in a one way device, they loose "potential" revenue. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | new tech and no incentive
eh. cablecards are new and comcast has no reason to speed this along in the long run. sure, 4 hours to install sucks initially, but think about the $ they are losing every month by that customer not having a stupid cable box. |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs:
·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to magnushsi
Re: Author statement:
said by magnushsi  : They don't promote CC rental because no-one is selling a two-way device, yet. i've read on a few posts that this is b.s. cable cards are two way, but something about tivo not having access to the hardware to make it functional. or something. |
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goober22
Resident Duh-Huh Member
join:2001-12-28
Panama City, FL
| reply to itguy05
Re: PC tuners?
Here's one now from ATI. It does require Vista however.
»ati.amd.com/products/tvwonderdig···dex.html
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home | reply to KoolMoe
»ati.amd.com/products/tvwonderdig···dex.html
It's no longer a prototype... |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
1 edit | reply to djrobx
Re: Simple Economics
Just another reason I never went DVR... service fee + rental fee.
Instead I purchased a DVD-burner and a stack of DVD-RW's.
Of course, I don't record a whole lot, but I often keep what I burn.
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home
| reply to morbo
Re: Author statement:
CableCards don't have to be 2-way. CableCards simply decrypt what is encrypted.
What needs to be 2-way is the device in which the CableCard is installed. So far there are Motorola, SciAtl, and Samsung cable boxes that have this 2-way communication with CableCards that cable companies have been using since 7/1/07.
TiVo should probably have waited with their new TiVo HD box until they could have created and sold a 2-way OCAP capable TiVo. |
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