Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Certainly can't blame them
As deep as Googles pockets are, they're a prime target for lawsuits from copyright owners and need to be very proactive in taking steps to at least be able to say they did everything in their power to try to stop it.
Personally, I still can't get over the fact that they even bought youtube. It seems to me it's a damned if they do and damned if they don't kind of business. Take away the copyrighted material and you have a questionable business model..but keep on offering it and get sued into oblivion.
Why would they want to expose their outrageously successful existing business to something like that in the first place?
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | ha.
People will just jump ship if it becomes to bad, theres so many youtube clones now adays.. |
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by ztmike  :People will just jump ship if it becomes to bad, theres so many youtube clones now adays.. Take your pick 
AtomUploads
Blip.tv
Bolt
Break.com
Brightcove
Clip4e.com
Clipfish
ClipShack
Dailymotion
FlickLife
Flixya
Flukiest
Flurl
GoFish
Grouper
Guba
HolyLemon
IFILM
Jumpcut
Kewego
LiveDigital
LiveVideo
Metacafe
Motionbox
MySpace Videos
Myubo
MyVideo
Revver
SelfcastTV
Sevenload
Sibir.bg
Soapbox(MSN)
Stage6 (DivX)
Tubearoo
Uberme
UnCut Video (AOL)
Uvouch.com
Vbox7
Veoh
Videotube
Viddler.com
vidilife
Vimeo
VuMe
Yahoo! Video
Zabim
Zeec
ZippyVideos.com
Zoopy
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LiberalKing
Intocable
Premium
join:2005-09-12
Bronx, NY | you forgot pornotube |
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
1 edit | said by LiberalKing :you forgot pornotube and...
quickfap
xtube
youporn
yuvutu
redtube
badjojo
rude
megarotic
slutaddict
shufuni
timtube
cliphunter
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ross
join:2000-08-16
 ·Digizip
| More than that...
Google is going down a slippery slope when offering to censure content on YouTube by pre-filtering content. First, they are not liable for material posted on their site up until they receive a take-down notice from a legitimate copyright owner. Secondly, the pre-filtering system can be rigged to abuse or deny the free speech rights of citizens in the areas of protected parody and political speech.
Whatever happened to the truism that any publicity is good publicity, especially free publicity? Why doesn't it hold true when applied to copyright holders IP posted on YouTube?
The whole DMCA is a crock of shit when applied to non-commercial use of IP. Google/YouTube ought to ban any smartass anal-retentive copyright owners material from EVER appearing on any Google search, or Google controlled website, once the first takedown notice is delivered to YouTube. Make copyright owners PAY for any and all publicity/advertising everywhere on the wwweb, period. Fuck'em if they can't take a joke! |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Rick
Re: Certainly can't blame them
said by Rick :As deep as Googles pockets are, they're a prime target for lawsuits from copyright owners and need to be very proactive in taking steps to at least be able to say they did everything in their power to try to stop it. Personally, I still can't get over the fact that they even bought youtube. It seems to me it's a damned if they do and damned if they don't kind of business. Take away the copyrighted material and you have a questionable business model..but keep on offering it and get sued into oblivion. Why would they want to expose their outrageously successful existing business to something like that in the first place? *sigh* google is now taking away what made youtube what it is today. people aren't going there to see grandmas cats.
filters can always be beat
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
 ·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
1 edit | No, we're going here to see this about Lowe's: »youtube.com/watch?v=ImlcU5adbyo
Edit Add: for the record I do work the company and not all of the Lowe's Family of Companies' employees are like this. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to ross
Re: More than that...
Media companies already pay for their advertising on the web. They have ads posted on sister sites, TV guide and all over the place. Plus why do they need ads about their company when the shows do all the advertising for them? Also this isn't a joke. It's a matter of who owns what. I'm sure if you spent X amount of millions of dollars creating a show and putting it on TV and had to sell commercial time to pay for the channel YOU wouldn't want it to appear on YouTube or anything else for free to the public. You in return lose money from people not watching your channel; ie you lose ad revenue.
Free speech does not apply to uploading/stealing someone else's content and re-posting it else where for others.
And just to let you know Google isn't King of anything. Media companies have deeper pockets then Google will ever have and they can do without Google, they did without them long before they were created and will long after. You forget Time Warner is the largest media company in the world. They have UnCut video if they want to upload their shows; which is heavily advertised. |
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herb77
join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Certainly can't blame them
Whats wrong with having a hooker? The guy with the camera should get a life. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | What's wrong? it was just outside of a school zone, out in front of a family style restaurant, and 3 inside of a company owned truck. He was also married and has 3 kids. |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
·Digizip
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: More than that...
said by hottboiinnc :Media companies already pay for their advertising on the web. They have ads posted on sister sites, TV guide and all over the place. Plus why do they need ads about their company when the shows do all the advertising for them? Also this isn't a joke. It's a matter of who owns what. I'm sure if you spent X amount of millions of dollars creating a show and putting it on TV and had to sell commercial time to pay for the channel YOU wouldn't want it to appear on YouTube or anything else for free to the public. You in return lose money from people not watching your channel; ie you lose ad revenue... And, you don't have a god damn clue about what YouTube does for copyright owners in terms of publicity they would otherwise NOT have. No one who posts a snippet of a performance, or of a TV show, does anything more than promote that performer or TV show by posting it. It potentially generates interest where none may have existed; i.e., FREE advertising/publicity. Presumably, the entire TV show will have been broadcast over the air, including commercials sold to advertisers to cover the costs of production, the recording of which falls under Fair Use. Reposting a cut from such a broadcast merely promotes interest in seeing any re-broadcast of the entire programming to people who otherwise may never have seen any of it at all. No one is STEALING anything.
Additionally, Free speech will be the first thing to suffer if pre-filtering is applied to postings on YouTube that may be parodies of whatever product/performer/production that is involved.
No one is talking about uploading complete programming to P2P torrents prior to release, or even after release.
If Time-Warner, or anyone else, wants to profit off the popular culture, then they had better be ready to share it around a little. |
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kinabrew
join:2002-02-01
·Comcast
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Certainly can't blame them
There are people starving in this country. Rather than harass someone who was doing something in the back of the truck, in a place that neither the kids nor anyone in the restaurant could see, why not go feed people at a soup kitchen?
Harassing people because you believe they're immoral doesn't do any good to anyone. That the cameraman gets some sick pleasure out of this is even worse. He thinks he's doing something worthwhile because he's the morality police. |
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herb77
join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL
1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc :What's wrong? it was just outside of a school zone, out in front of a family style restaurant, and 3 inside of a company owned truck. He was also married and has 3 kids. Just outside a school zone? Isn't that like everywhere. I got better things to care about. |
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herb77
join:2005-02-23
Fort Myers, FL | reply to kinabrew
That camera guy is loser. I bet he looks like Ned Flanders.  |
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ronespiritu
join:2004-02-27
Anaheim, CA | another good site bites the dust.
Move over Napster here comes Youtube! |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to ross
Re: More than that...
Anything that is recorded by any media company is not allowed to be uploaded or re-distributed in any form. Read the copyright for them. It doesn't matter if its a 20 second or even 15 second clip. It's still stealing the that part of the show.
Also actors have NO say so in what happens to their shows once they sign on a contract. The Media company does. They paid the actor for the terms of the contract and thats that. The Media company owns the show that the actor was in. Not the actor. Commercials are also copyrighted. They're owned by the company that has their product in them. The product name is copyrighted or is trade marked.
And you'll never see a damn penny from Time Warner or Viacom in terms of their programming- get over it. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to kinabrew
Re: Certainly can't blame them
OH so it'd okay with your loved one that you went around sleeping with some chick off the street corner? |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | reply to herb77
No school zones aren't everywhere.
Edit: you're prolly one of the stupid idiots that speed through them though. |
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kinabrew
join:2002-02-01 | reply to hottboiinnc
I wouldn't do that, no, but it wouldn't be any of their business if I did. |
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