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@cox.net | Lafayette's LUS project
lobbying, profits for shareholders, attorneys (not union busting however)- sounds familiar. |
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radougherty
join:1999-07-23
Austin, TX
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1 edit | Who's scamming who?
"Time Warner spends our money on marketing and advertising, lobbying, profits for their shareholders...
Gee, AT&T doesn't spend any money marketing (all those phone calls or mailings about getting such and such service), lobbying(yea right, AT&T doesn't do that) and profits for their shareholders (that's why we have FTTN and not FTTP), do things on the cheap to keep the profits up. What a bunch of garbage! |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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·Comcast
| What do expect from a union leader - logic?
These guys are doing nothing but throwing away their members union dues on their own stupid marketing and lobbying campaign.
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | reply to radougherty
I'd like to know how Time Warner got their hands on the union's money.
The CWA acting as a shill for AT&T, OMG the "end of times" is near. |
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NyQuil Kid
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join:2001-01-06
Brick, NJ
·Comcast
 ·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | Typical Union Hyprocrisy
"Time Warner spends our money on marketing and advertising, lobbying, profits for their shareholders, and union-busting attorneys - none of which improve services or help our community."
And this is any different from the unions spending money on a campaign to get users to drop Time Warner? Please...what a crock.
The sooner the unions are driven to extinction, the better.
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needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | reply to lesopp
Re: Who's scamming who?
Gawd, I hate unions! Like they don't spend their members' money marketing and lobbying. What a bunch of crap.
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Although unions aren't the best thing in the world....
they certainly aren't the worst-they did give us the 'weekend' and much better working conditions and they DO have their faults-but for a company to union bust and fire any one talking about the 'U' word is not good either. |
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needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | reply to NyQuil Kid
Re: Typical Unioon Hyprocrisy
LOL! We must have posted at the same time. Read my comment right above yours. 
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needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ
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Re: Although unions aren't the best thing in the world....
So, you just take the union's word that TW is guilty of this? If so, take them to court as it against the law. I hate when unions start throwing words like this around and people just accept it as the truth.
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pinot noir6
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join:2007-04-23
Columbus, OH | Unions
I avoid doing business with unionized companies, if at all possible. Sometimes it's not, but when ever I have a choice to purchase from a non-union company I will choose that instead. |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: |  Is it me or does the guy to the right look creepy?
Not like the pig is any better but that dude I wouldn't trust with my money.
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | reply to needforspeed59
Re: Although unions aren't the best thing in the world....
I worked for TW-I know this for a fact-most of the employees need their jobs and can't afford to drag this on for years in the court system-and TW knows this. |
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Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | reply to NyQuil Kid
Re: Typical Union Hyprocrisy
Seconded. |
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2kmaro
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join:2000-07-11
ColossalCave
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Re: Although unions aren't the best thing in the world....
Actually, the 40-hour work-week and weekends and such came not from unions but from federal legislation. Check the history of the Fair Labor Standards Act. One of the things it did was establish the 40 hour work week as a standard, which in turn ended up with the side effect of creating the "weekend". This was primarily an effort to get people back to work: if you run a company 24/7 or just keep your business open 12 or 16 hrs a day, and the gov't says everything over X #hrs per day/week is overtime and has to be paid at a premium rate, what do you do to get the work done without increasing labor cost? You hire more people.
In today's U.S. economy, in any large business such as TW (or the one I work for - not as large by far, but non-union) management realizes that the 'threat' of unionizing is always there. So the tendency is to provide compensation and benefits packages that compare favorably or better than what the union might force on them, without having to provide 'featherbed' jobs as part of the package.
Beech aircraft was a great example. They treated their employees like family (well liked family). There were things like a workout facility and similar amenities available to all employees. Then they got unionized, and through some silly interpretation of some union rule - those facilities became basically denied to all. I don't remember the specifics, but why do I think it probably went something like this: only non-union members can use the facility. Union cries FOUL! And so the company just shuts the whole thing down.
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| So how is it any different?
The union leaders spend the union members dues on lobbying, advertising, marketing, donating to politicians, and pro union attorneys. So how is it any different than Time Warner?
A union is not for there union members anymore. They are a business just like Time Warner is. The unions leaders are protecting there status quo, nothing more |
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | reply to bamabrad
Re: Although unions aren't the best thing in the world....
Unions *were* a good thing, in their day. Now they're nothing more than a breeding ground for mediocrity. |
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bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | For the average - yes I agree. |
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NewMariner
join:2005-06-24
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Re: Unions
said by pinot noir6  :I avoid doing business with unionized companies, if at all possible. Sometimes it's not, but when ever I have a choice to purchase from a non-union company I will choose that instead. And then you wander why you get tech support in india. I cant believe you would rather support Mohammad in Bangladesh then Joe in Kansas. Thats whats wrong with our nation, everyone wants gold for the price of peanuts. |
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pinot noir6
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join:2007-04-23
Columbus, OH | You are indeed wrong! Last time I called at&t tech support, it was to India. Last time I called Time Warner Tech support, it was to right here in town. |
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idjk
@sprintlink.net
| Unions Pitch U-Verse
While it is true that it seems to me that the unions care more for themselves instead of their members I do still have free medical insurance from Bell (at least till next contract then who knows )since 2001 when I retired. When I was working I got time and a half over 40 and Sundays then double time for over 49 and none of that was from the govt. but bargained for by the union.
I think here they are trying to get work for their members and due for themselves-- it all goes around. |
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