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Tulsa, OK | dont pay companies to make their lives easier.
You are paying t-mobile for the towers they won't put up to give you coverage in your house. pretty insulting if you ask me.
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Defiance82
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So I wonder if all UMA phone service is free. AT&T's new 8820 coming out in a week has WiFi UMA also so wonder if that's free from a WiFi connection.
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evilghost
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join:2003-11-22
Springville, AL
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1 edit | From a user
Actually, as a Hotspot@Home user I'd be more than happy to explain this to you.
By default, any HS@Home capable handset can use the service, however, calls made over the VOIP/WIFI network are billed against your airtime minutes/plan.
The "charge" for the HS@Home service permits unlimited calls to continental US numbers.
Additionally, when placing calls over their VOIP network the call audio fidelity is significantly superior to that of the cellular network. I'd go as far as to say my ears are unable to distinguish the differences between a land-line phone and the call quality of the VOIP service.
I've been using the service for about a month now and have no jitter, dropped calls, or transition issues from WiFi to cellular.
The 6086 supports WEP, WPA-PSK, and WPA2-PSK. I've created a static lease reservation on my Buffalo WHR-G54S router running OpenWRT (»www.openwrt.org) and have set QoS prio on the phone's IPs to take precedence over any other traffic.
A call over the HS@Home network uses about 37 to 40 Kbps, a very light amount of traffic to sustain.
I'm not a T-Mobile shill or employee, but as a user of the service I felt qualified to comment. |
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CO_Chris
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join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | I cant wait .
I can't wait for my VZ contract to end in DEC so i can get this service i just hope they have newer phones.VZ sucks in my Apt i only get 1 to 2 bars even if i go out side i get the same . |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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Re: From a user
said by evilghost  :By default, any HS@Home capable handset can use the service, however, calls made over the VOIP/WIFI network are billed against your airtime minutes/plan. The "charge" for the HS@Home service permits unlimited calls to continental US numbers. Unlimited calling, but charged to airtime minutes, and $20/mo doesn't sound like much of a deal. If you are on the phone a lot at home, you may also have to increase your wireless plan costs to add more minutes.
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evilghost
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·Windstream
2 edits | No, you are incorrect. If you pay for the Hotspot@Home service it does not bill against your airtime minutes when using WiFi. It does bill against your minutes if when using WiFi you are not enrolled in the HS@Home service and pay the monthly fee.
UMA equipped phones can use the UMA service "HS@Home" regardless, the only difference is the method of billing (airtime versus the monthly fee for the HS@Home add-on). |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by evilghost :No, you are incorrect. If you pay for the Hotspot@Home service it does not bill against your airtime minutes when using WiFi. It does bill against your minutes if when using WiFi you are not enrolled in the HS@Home service and pay the monthly fee. OK. Thanks for the clarification. Those 2 statements seemed conflicting.
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | reply to evilghost
is your cell phone data free at the same time as well? |
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evilghost
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join:2003-11-22
Springville, AL | reply to TKJunkMail
No problem, bold was for emphasis of differences to better clarify, hope you didn't infer tone/yelling from that. |
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evilghost
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join:2003-11-22
Springville, AL | reply to Joe12345678
Negative, data is still routed over GPRS/EDGE and billed at the same rate. If you don't have cellular coverage data doesn't work. |
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acrowl
join:2001-08-08
California, KY
| Sprint and Nextel....Just wait.
All,
Sprint is testing a technology for CDMA customers. The advantage of the CDMA version of this is that it works with any CDMA phone. You do have to purchase a special box (not a router).
This special box actually transmits on the assigned frequencies of the carrier. It does not use WiFI. So it has a requirement of knowing where it is located to ensure it is in compliance with the FCC. So it has to be located where it can hear the GPS satellites. So by a window will do. If it can not hear the GPS satellites. it will not work. The other item if interest is that you can only register up to five phone to work with the box.
It does take your voice calls and routes it over your high speed network in the house. Pricing has not been released. Samsung is a big vendor for this technology.
Things are going to get interesting soon. So you CDMA customers, hold tight. Our day will be here soon.
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evilghost
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join:2003-11-22
Springville, AL
·Windstream
| To piggie-back your post.
Hotspot@Home handles 911 like this:
1) Attempt to route 911 call using cellular network
2) If cellular unavailable route call using VOIP
3) Attempt to determine location using cellular, fall back to E911 location defined in service. |
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greendragon
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join:2003-09-20
Stewartville, MN
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Re: From a user
I can't wait for the day when we can use the technology like hotspot@home for calling and data, but be able to do it at any wifi hotspot.
I'd pay more than 19.99 to do both and do it everywhere.
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03 | reply to evilghost
I have to disagree. I use data services on my phone over wifi all the time. |
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greendragon
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Stewartville, MN | Yes, but can you use WiFi to call someone without using your minutes?
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texans20
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Texas!
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Re: Sprint and Nextel....Just wait.
said by acrowl :All, Sprint is testing a technology for CDMA customers. The advantage of the CDMA version of this is that it works with any CDMA phone. You do have to purchase a special box (not a router). This special box actually transmits on the assigned frequencies of the carrier. It does not use WiFI. So it has a requirement of knowing where it is located to ensure it is in compliance with the FCC. So it has to be located where it can hear the GPS satellites. So by a window will do. If it can not hear the GPS satellites. it will not work. The other item if interest is that you can only register up to five phone to work with the box. It does take your voice calls and routes it over your high speed network in the house. Pricing has not been released. Samsung is a big vendor for this technology. Things are going to get interesting soon. So you CDMA customers, hold tight. Our day will be here soon. Regards Sounds interesting, but the "must grab GPS signal" will ruin it for a lot of people. Also the T-Mobile option seems better because the phone will grab onto any available WiFi router, so one could make/get free calls all day long at work or school. Finally GSM is a personal option for me, I use a lot of phone data and my CDMA phone would send callers straight to voicemail when I used data, where GSM will let them ring through.
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03 | reply to greendragon
Re: From a user
Have you read ANYTHING in this thread? If you pay the fee for HS@home, you get unlimited minutes while on wifi. |
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greendragon
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join:2003-09-20
Stewartville, MN
| Ok...
Calling someone using hotspot@home for $19.99 a month = no minutes used
Calling someone using hotspot@home not paying 19.99 a month = minutes used
I get all that
When you use the data service, eventhough you pay for hotspot@home, means that you use the cell network not the wifi network for data. So, hotspot@home is good for voice calls, but makes no difference for data service.
I would like to have a plan like hotspot@home work for voice and data for one price and not use minutes or pay cellular data charges when using a wifi hotspot.
Did I make myself clear this time?
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jgkolt
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Lakewood, OH
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Re: Sprint and Nextel....Just wait.
the new cdma phones through verizon will continue to talk and data transfer. that was the old days.
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