  justbitsMore fiber than ATT can handlePremium
join:2003-01-08
Chicago, IL | Cowpie? For some reason, I keep reading "Copowi" as "Cowpie". | |
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join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | Re: Cowpie? Their red banner looks like something a proctologist would have on the wall. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Cowpie? communist/socialist proctologist to that  | |
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 sansri88digital is herePremium
join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
kudos:1 |  Register!
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| | Resellers can do this? Arent they just leeching? | |
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| | | Re: Resellers can do this? If a Reseller has it's own bandwidth to the ATM network, resellers can do almost anything they want, except dispatch techs to work on the infrastructure.
I will go out on a limb and suggest this company is currently on the Qwest network, as I have tried several states on their page, and the Qwest states seem to work. Also, the tiers (256, 1.5M, 7M) sure look like Qwest tiers. | |
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Resellers can do this? True, but Verizon doesn't use the 'steep' tiers that Qwest does, where the tiers are:
1. 256kbps: its a little better than dialup
2. 1.5Mbps: Decent for average person (and probably available to the majority of customers)
3. 7Mbps: For those that / need more than 1.5Mbps, and can get it.
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| | Competition,,,, Ah...Isn't competition a beautiful thing. | |
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join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC Reviews:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Competition,,,, Heh what they say they are competing on isn't a point of competition yet. I'm sure it will be, but they're running this campaign a little early. Plus, its vs. Qwest, not like there is much challenge. I think its just the only selling point marketing could come up with.
Hopefully they will be around in a few years when it really is needed, then everyone can switch to them. | |
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | loose the communist propoganda looking ad I'm all about net neutrality, but loose the communist looking ad campaign. there is nothing chic about communism.
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00000 | Re: loose the communist propoganda looking ad it's lose not loose.
"there is nothing chic about" spelling mistakes. | |
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| |  N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | Re: loose the communist propoganda looking ad Or grammar Nazis.... | |
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| | | | | Re: loose the communist propoganda looking ad said by N3OGH:Or grammar Nazis.... He's perfectly in the right for pointing out that someone either made a typo or doesn't know the difference between loose / lose. Whichever the case may be, it's pretty annoying for those of us with a firm grasp of the English language.
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| | | Red Scare, Red Scare! Ahhhhhhh!!!
That damn evil Communist Pro Net Neutrality ISP. How dare they use a red banner with fingers pointed toward the air. Quick, to the batcav-- I mean to the closet to get the guns and tin foil hats! | |
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join:2003-12-08
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1 edit | Re: loose the communist propoganda looking ad you and morbo should get together for a spelling and grammar circle jerk.
EDIT: add tater_gunz too.
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hiatus | Re: loose the communist propoganda looking ad said by inteller:you and morbo should get together for a spelling and grammar circle jerk. You should know the difference between communism and Communism before you talk about them that way people won't have to correct you...
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 major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | Absolutely! If the "neutrality" difference in service then is marginal, do we really think consumers will pay a premium simply to make a statement? I would think the Pearl Jam fiasco is proof enough already that the DeathStar and others like them are more than willing many times over to censor content that is counter to their financial best interests. AT&T and other self-appointed Internet gatekeepers are not to be trusted. Ever. Period.
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 batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ | Neutral Net is good. A Net-Neutrality law will bring about pay per bit broadband much like pay per killo watt electric service. I think that is the way it should be.
Of course the 5% that use 80% can't afford it but that is not my problem. | |
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| justbitsMore fiber than ATT can handlePremium
join:2003-01-08
Chicago, IL | Re: Neutral Net is good. Pay per bit broadband will be your problem too when somebody decides to DDOS you. | |
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| | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Neutral Net is good. said by justbits:Pay per bit broadband will be your problem too when somebody decides to DDOS you. I don't have the ability to be attacked. Dynamic IP and all you know. I am talking about residential broadband. Commercial broadband will stay as it is. | |
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| Re: Neutral Net is good. said by batterup:said by justbits:Pay per bit broadband will be your problem too when somebody decides to DDOS you. I don't have the ability to be attacked. Dynamic IP and all you know. I am talking about residential broadband. Commercial broadband will stay as it is. First off just because your on a dynamic ip doesn't mean you can't be ddos'ed. You really don't know much about this interweb thing do you.
And even with a new ip every time your passing on your ddos to another person who is getting hit and billed for your actions. Real responsible person you are.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Neutral Net is good. said by BosstonesOwn:said by batterup:said by justbits:Pay per bit broadband will be your problem too when somebody decides to DDOS you. I don't have the ability to be attacked. Dynamic IP and all you know. I am talking about residential broadband. Commercial broadband will stay as it is. First off just because your on a dynamic ip doesn't mean you can't be ddos'ed. You really don't know much about this interweb thing do you. And even with a new ip every time your passing on your ddos to another person who is getting hit and billed for your actions. Real responsible person you are. What are you talking about. Do you know what a Distributed Denial of Service attack is? Are you suggesting I am stupid and don't know what my PC is doing? Do you know what you are saying? | |
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| Re: Neutral Net is good. Yes I do. You do know that they can attack your router or pc right ? And make it report to a dynamic dns service server or even a bot net right ? You know , fun stuff like that has been around awhile , just very main stream.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Neutral Net is good. said by BosstonesOwn:Yes I do. You do know that they can attack your router or pc right ? And make it report to a dynamic dns service server or even a bot net right ? You know , fun stuff like that has been around awhile , just very main stream. I fart in the general direction of such attacks. My PC and I are one with the force. | |
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join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
·Comcast
2 edits | pick any two Someone posted something in another thread that went something like:
Fast
Unfiltered
Cheap
Pick any two.
Looks like this trades Higher costs for Unfiltered.
I would like to know if they are just testing the market for this or if their whole business plan revolves around it. | |
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join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | Destined to go bankrupt. The ISP insists that it's a "social enterprise" and not a traditional business.
Unless they own the network there is not much to this but a communist inspired logo.
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| major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | Re: Destined to go bankrupt. said by caco:Unless they own the network there is not much to this but a communist inspired logo. Do you even know what the concept of communism is. Somehow, I seriously doubt that you or any of the other dittoheads throwing around the word do. 
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| | Oh boy.... just what we need a Net Neutrality network......
can you say "end of the Internet"? | |
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus | Re: Oh boy.... How does this spell the "end of the internet" ? It maybe unfiltered, but it doesn't mean they are going to stand around while a user sprays the internet with spam or viruses. You can do exactly what these guys are wile maintaining network security by removing the problem WHEN it appears.
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| | | | Re: Oh boy.... said by bmn:How does this spell the "end of the internet" ? It maybe unfiltered, but it doesn't mean they are going to stand around while a user sprays the internet with spam or viruses. You can do exactly what these guys are wile maintaining network security by removing the problem WHEN it appears. in short, I'm opposed to network neutrality on any level; while it appears to be all good and fine in the beginning, it ultimately spells ruin for easy transfer of information, in the long run; only businesses and corporations benefit in the long run.
I'm sure it won't be evident, at first, but I'd be willing to be quite a bit that once it becomes widespread and starts catching on, it'll greatly GREATLY hinder the Internet. | |
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hiatus | Re: Oh boy.... said by Fox McCloud:in short, I'm opposed to network neutrality on any level; while it appears to be all good and fine in the beginning, it ultimately spells ruin for easy transfer of information, in the long run; only businesses and corporations benefit in the long run. I don't know about that. Net neutrality would insure that information you wish to send, be it an email or video, will be permitted to pass unhindered. Changing the current internet modus operandi to one where providers can stack the deck by charging for differential service is more likely to benefit large businesses and corporations. For example, Google and Yahoo can EASILY afford to pay the QoS extortion fees that providers will want, however, a small, independent website run by an individual or small group or a small business won't be able to pay up. Their site will be adversely affected.
I'm sure it won't be evident, at first, but I'd be willing to be quite a bit that once it becomes widespread and starts catching on, it'll greatly GREATLY hinder the Internet. Considering the internet has been operating in a basically neutral state since its inception, I don't think the line of reasoning that it will hinder internet development is contrary to the history of the internet. The neutral nature of the internet until now has actually allowed the internet to develop as quickly as it does because it means anyone can provide contents, services and products.
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| | Sounds good. I might check out ol' "Cowpie", lol. I'll see what this ISP has to offer.
It may be a better deal than Comcast. | |
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·Armstrong Zoom ..
| There NOT doing it But a large company certainly could. They would have to be able to guarantee that every single packet was not touched (other than routing, etc) from one end to the other. This could be done to some extreme but unless you have a presence everywhere you can only guarantee most of the network is neutral, which may be good enough.
No, I say this is a mom and pop reseller whom somehow got on here as news CANNOT live up to this claim. | |
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join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT | This site scares me I am not sure what to think. Prices seem really good, the website is powered by Drupal and the logo looks like crapola.
Would you trust this company with your money and sign up?
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join:2007-05-01
Madison, WI | Count me in Just added my name to their list.
As much as I love my local Charter HSI, I'm all for competition. This should be a piece of cake to get people here in Madison, WI to sign up. | |
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 nekkidtruthYou fail at life.Premium
join:2002-05-20
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Ubuntu Wow impressive. They even offer free Ubuntu installation CD's.
It would be interesting to find out if they offer technical support for either installing it, or setting up their network etc. As impressive as it is for them to offer the OS to it's customers, I'm thinking it'll only be a matter of time before they re-think that decision. The newbies will be all over them 
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join:2001-04-27
Shelby, NC
kudos:1 | Overpriced much? Their Dial-up options are a bit over priced for this day and age, heck I pay $6/mo now for dial-up. | |
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