  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium
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kudos:4 | Wow.... I know some people get pissed at the internet and their ISP's but wow!  | |
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| | | | Re: Wow.... I hate to say this, but this happens more than people think... BB guns, 12 gauges, 9mm, I have seen quite a few gun shot related issues...
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| | | | As if this trigger happy hillbilly could ever be found..
Of course this guy would be charged & fined, but how do you find him? | |
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|  RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium
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kudos:1 | Billy Bob Joe Redneck must have been out in his truk, drinken sum beerz agen  | |
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| | Pop a cap in you gl'ass! word. | |
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| | ISP Perfect Storm? Yesterday must have been one heck of a day for ISP around the US. I know in Cincy, TWC had a pretty major outage. I thought I heard there where issues in the Texas area and now Cleveland. | |
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New Philadelphia, OH | Re: ISP Perfect Storm? said by DMWCincy:Yesterday must have been one heck of a day for ISP around the US. I know in Cincy, TWC had a pretty major outage. I thought I heard there where issues in the Texas area and now Cleveland. Still major issues in central Ohio with outtages/reported issues via TWC. | |
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| | | Users on TWC near Cincinnati are typically routed up to Columbus and then connect through Level3 at Cleveland.
Western Ohio varies. | |
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Richardson, TX | Cleveland???? Would have expected something like this to be more likely to happen down in these here parts...  | |
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|  OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Cleveland???? Northeastern Ohio is also quite good at causing blackouts that affect 25% of the United States and parts of Canada. | |
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1 edit | You know what Freud said about guns... Men that have to own BIG guns generally have small.....
...and it sure seems to me that this guy was using his (small one) to take a p*ss all over the Internet! | |
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|  tenbase
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Alexandria, VA | Re: You know what Freud said about guns...  | |
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| Fragile Network Pretty scary that something as "simple" as this action could have such an impact on the internet. Something to think about in terms of terrorist attacks.
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| | | I agree! Though the Interent continued to operate as planned, it did so in a greatly diminished way. This seems to illustrate it's quite vulnerable. | |
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| | | Re: Fragile Network said by skj:Pretty scary that something as "simple" as this action could have such an impact on the internet. Something to think about in terms of terrorist attacks. or how easy the government could shut the 'net down if they wanted v_v. | |
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| | RayWPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Fragile Network said by Fox McCloud:said by skj:Pretty scary that something as "simple" as this action could have such an impact on the internet. Something to think about in terms of terrorist attacks. or how easy the government could shut the 'net down if they wanted v_v. Considering that when the gov owned the internet it was designed to be a bit more robust, but when the industry took over they gave up the robustness in the name of profits, I think that you may be a bit off the mark. Not that there is not a problem, just the finger pointing (plus the gov depends on the net too much also).
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| | |  major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | Re: Fragile Network said by RayW:Considering that when the gov owned the internet it was designed to be a bit more robust, but when the industry took over they gave up the robustness in the name of profits, I think that you may be a bit off the mark. Not that there is not a problem, just the finger pointing (plus the gov depends on the net too much also). Especially since the feds now have carte blanche to monitor anyone, anytime, anywhere. We're fighting the terrarists here so we don't have to fight them over there, er, I mean we're fighting the terrarists there so we can listen in on Americans private communications here. Because you never know when them dumb terrarists will hiding under your bed or sending email via AOHell. We have to monitor everything all the time just to be sure.
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kudos:1 | Re: Fragile Network said by major marco:]Especially since the feds now have carte blanche to monitor anyone, anytime, anywhere. We're fighting the terrarists here so we don't have to fight them over there, er, I mean we're fighting the terrarists there so we can listen in on Americans private communications here. Because you never know when them dumb terrarists will hiding under your bed or sending email via AOHell. We have to monitor everything all the time just to be sure. I love idiot trolls, so I will give you a response (plus I am bored). You high schoolers do not have any background to know that what you consider new is actually rather old. Surveillance of the populous was done even earlier from what those in the business of doing so who are older than me say. The only difference between the 2000's and the 1950's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's is that the technology for doing surveillance keeps getting better, and we are doing more activities today that make it easier to do the surveillance.
As far as carte blanche, if you just consider the technology available and the use of said technology today vice even 10 years ago, surveillance has done nothing more than keep up with the times (well, that is a small misstatement, the gov is still behind the curve in most cases). And yes, in the 80's often a warrant was applied for after the fact, depending on what 'they' were doing.
How do I know some of this? I made a trip overseas in the early 90's to Australia. After I got back I was told by someone I knew in a certain government agency that I should behave myself because I was now on another organization's watch list, low level, but one none the less. Oh well, I have not noticed any affect on my travel to other countries or my job.
If I want privacy from corporate surveillance (and the feds) I just use the library computer for research and pay cash for all purchases. I will let them monitor the credit card using, internet surfing, cell phone talking (none of which were widely available to most people 30 years ago other than gas and store cards) public which creates a monitoring task that probably allows me to slide under the radar in most cases.
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| | | | | said by RayW:said by Fox McCloud:said by skj:Pretty scary that something as "simple" as this action could have such an impact on the internet. Something to think about in terms of terrorist attacks. or how easy the government could shut the 'net down if they wanted v_v. Considering that when the gov owned the internet it was designed to be a bit more robust, but when the industry took over they gave up the robustness in the name of profits, I think that you may be a bit off the mark. Not that there is not a problem, just the finger pointing (plus the gov depends on the net too much also). that's not the point I was making; I was merely stating that if the government wanted to cut off Internet access (or at least GREATLY hinder it), they could...very easily. | |
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join:2001-09-01
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kudos:1 | Re: Fragile Network said by Fox McCloud:that's not the point I was making; I was merely stating that if the government wanted to cut off Internet access (or at least GREATLY hinder it), they could...very easily. True, just pay certain companies enough money.
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1 edit | nm it worked fine for me
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| | Redundancy? I know of an attack on the NOC of a CLEC here. Put a few shotgun shells in some racks and then in himself. Nothing blinked in terms of service. I think the NOCs are plenty secure based on many that I have seen.
The cables running outside of them are pitifully protected. You can walk up to almost any standalone NOC and see the cabling running out from the building. Snip snip, its gone.
There really should be more security on the cabling of our systems, and no one loop in the field should take out anyone. | |
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| | say, where was Cheney yesterday? Was ol Trigger Happy at it again? Tsk Tsk. Perhaps it was his way of censoring someone in Cleveland for Bush bashing...
Or, one of his friends was between him and the target. Hee hee. | |
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| major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | Re: say, where was Cheney yesterday? Darth Cheney was in a remote, undisclosed bunker deep underground having his blood drained and replaced with fetus blood while simultaneously biting the heads off ducklings.
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| | | said by satellite68:Was ol Trigger Happy at it again? Tsk Tsk. Perhaps it was his way of censoring someone in Cleveland for Bush bashing... Or, one of his friends was between him and the target. Hee hee. It's possible Dick saw a few bird droppings land on a bush and went ballistic.
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join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | Hey Level 3 What ever happened to redundancy?
Isn't this what a properly configured routing protocol supposed to avoid? | |
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|  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
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| Re: Hey Level 3 said by lesopp:What ever happened to redundancy? Oddly I didn't notice this and I'm a direct L3 customer. That suggests to me that this was a bundle where L3 is selling capacity to others.
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|  espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
kudos:2
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| said by lesopp:What ever happened to redundancy? Isn't this what a properly configured routing protocol supposed to avoid? Everything *DID* converge around it. The problem is that Internet traffic is like a river -- if you stop the flow at one location that traffic is just going to go somewhere else. When 140+Gbit (80Gbit for Cogent and Telia has claimed 60Gbit) is forced to find another path there's bound to be issues.
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join:2000-07-24
Mentor, OH | Only in Cleveland ... ... could you shoot a shotgun and take down the internet.
What I want to know is where are all the cops at when this stuff happens? Oh wait, the mayor laid them all off. | |
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| | They were testing BTIP in New Mexico Bullet Through Internet Protocol | |
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|  53059959Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
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PwnZone | Re: They were testing BTIP in New Mexico lol it may not travel as fast as light, but theres never any loss! | |
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join:2002-05-02
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| Re: They were testing BTIP in New Mexico said by 53059959:lol it may not travel as fast as light, but theres never any loss! no, but there is attenuation. | |
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| brianPremium
join:2002-05-02
Lake Forest, CA | no... everything has to be an *OIP... so it's BOIP. more pronounceable that way too. | |
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| | Act of terrorism This is a direct attack on the infrastructure. This gentleman when caught should be tried as a terrorist.
Secondly Discharging a firearm in public? were children around?
Could this had been a test to see how they can take out the internet? 500 dumb asses firing shotguns into the ground at the same time?
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| | | Re: Act of terrorism Question is.....did they really know they were taking a shot at the "internet". I doubt it....just some idiot expressing his God given right to own a gun!! | |
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| |  La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
join:2001-07-12
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kudos:3
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| Re: Act of terrorism said by firebird1:Question is.....did they really know they were taking a shot at the "internet". I doubt it....just some idiot expressing his God given right to own a gun!! Also possible, but again, they apparently didn't catch anyone to find out what the motivation was.
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| La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
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| said by packetscan:.....Could this had been a test to see how they can take out the internet? 500 dumb asses firing shotguns into the ground at the same time? Very possible, wouldn't be the first time there was a "test run". Unfortunately, the article doesn't say anything about the authorities catching anyone to find out.
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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| said by packetscan:This is a direct attack on the infrastructure. This gentleman when caught should be tried as a terrorist. Secondly Discharging a firearm in public? were children around? I think you're saying 20% of the population are terrorists.
All I know is I have seen plenty of roadsigns, poles, hell even power transformers that idiots have used for target practice.
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| dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | I've dealt with this kind of outage before in that part of the country- in that case 3000 ft of aerial copper was destroyed by shotgun... but not because of evil intent- it was dove season and some less than sportsmanlike hunters were shooting birds off the lines. | |
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West Chester, PA | I thought it was Lithium batteries Blowing UP AT&T's VRAD's I guess it's really Smith & Wesson at fault 
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|  hambone42Peace, through superior firepowerPremium
join:2002-02-02
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1 edit | Re: A Christmas Story said by KA3SGM:SANTA: So little boy, what would you like for Christmas this year???? ...A Football??? RALPHIE: NO, NO, NO, I want an Official Red Ryder, Carbine action, 200-Shot, Range Model Air Rifle..... SANTA: SORRY KID, You'll Shoot The Internet Out. HO HO HO FB OM! Good thing I'd already had my afternoon coffee, or else I'd be buying a new keyboard from that one...
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| Surprised this does not happen more often With all the "rural" broadband being tossed around in the media lately stuff like this will be more in the news. But I expect they will adopt some standard Kevlar reinforced metal structures in remote areas. | |
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| | | Re: Surprised this does not happen more often I dont have broadband yet. Maybe if i do that theyll put it ou there | |
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